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free_bip ◴[] No.44475430[source]
It looks like Sweden's politicians are too sheltered to understand that there are people who enjoy sex work. Instead of trying to make it safe and enjoyable for all parties, they're systemically punishing sex workers, and even redefining the word sex to include onlyfans content (?!) while simultaneously calling them "victims."

The irony, of course, is that the only thing they're a "victim" of is those same politicians.

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alephnerd ◴[] No.44475508[source]
Swedish and to a certain extent Norwegian feminism is strongly opposed to sex work [0][1][2], as it is viewed as undermining gender equality (let's be honest - there isn't equivalent demand for meat markets of men) and exacerbating trafficking of women from poorer regions like Eastern Europe (it is extremely unlikely that someone in the sex industry is Swedish/Norwegian/Icelandic/Danish given the mixture of social bias and social safety net).

The initial ban in Sweden was itself legislated in 1999 when the Riksdag became majority women.

The libertarian and market-driven framing is a uniquely American and Canadian lens that doesn't hold much water in much of Europe - especially highly collectivist and monocultural societies like much of Scandinavia. It's the same with attitudes around drug legalization (zero-tolerance but with a heavy rehabilitation tilt is the mainstream view in much of Europe).

[0] - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13545701.2010.54...

[1] - https://feminismandhumanrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/0...

[2] - https://journals.kent.ac.uk/index.php/feministsatlaw/article...

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jeroenhd ◴[] No.44475790[source]
> let's be honest - there isn't equivalent demand for meat markets of men

I wouldn't underestimate that market. While men seem to consume more porn, "men" also includes "gay men" of course, who won't be quite as interested in seeing naked women even if we pretend women aren't interested in sex.

Plus, women may only be about a half as interested in pornography as men (according to https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2024-year-in-review 38% of visitors were female), the market sure seems large enough.

There are definitely market differences (the pay gap for male actors, for instance, and of course the double standard that judges women more than men for consuming such content) but the divide is not even close to absolute.

Your post ("it is extremely unlikely that someone in the sex industry is Swedish/Norwegian/Icelandic/Danish given the mixture of social bias and social safety net") supposes that women go into the sex industry out of desperation, but that's not true. Some people are fine with selling their bodies, to various degrees, and don't have a problem making an income that way.

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1. alephnerd ◴[] No.44475794[source]
I'm explaining the relatively mainstream view and assumptions behind the sex work stigma in Swedish (though arguably this is common across Scandinavia) society.

u/Jug below in the thread has a more comprehensive and better written explanation.