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Mini NASes marry NVMe to Intel's efficient chip

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440 points ingve | 2 comments | 04 Jul 25 15:21 UTC | HN request time: 0.463s | source
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gorkish ◴[04 Jul 25 20:27 UTC] No.44467625[source]▶
NVMe NAS is completely and totally pointless with such crap connectivity.

What in the WORLD is preventing these systems from getting at least 10gbps interfaces? I have been waiting for years and years and years and years and the only thing on the market for small systems with good networking is weird stuff that you have to email Qotom to order direct from China and _ONE_ system from Minisforum.

I'm beginning to think there is some sort of conspiracy to not allow anything smaller than a full size ATX desktop to have anything faster than 2.5gbps NICs. (10gbps nics that plug into NVMe slots are not the solution.)

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lmz ◴[04 Jul 25 23:56 UTC] No.44468989[source]▶
Not many people have fiber at home. Copper 10gig is power hungry and demands good cabling.
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1. toast0 ◴[05 Jul 25 17:30 UTC] No.44474203[source]▶
> Copper 10gig is power hungry and demands good cabling.

Power hungry yes, good cabling maybe?

I run 10G-Base-T on two Cat5e runs in my house that were installed circa 2001. I wasn't sure it would work, but it works fine. The spec is for 100 meter cable in dense conduit. Most home environments with twisted pair in the wall don't have runs that long or very dense cabling runs, so 10g can often work. Cat3 runs probably not worth trying at 10G, but I've run 1G over a small section of cat3 because that's what was underground already.

I don't do much that really needs 10G, but I do have a 1G symmetric connection and I can put my NAT on a single 10G physical connection and also put my backup NAT router in a different location with only one cable run there... thr NAT routers also do NAS and backup duty, so I can have a little bit of physical separation between them plus I can reboot one at a time without losing NAT.

Economical consumer oriented 10g is coming soon, lots of announcements recently and reasonableish products on aliexpress. All of my current 10G NICs are used enterprise stuff, and the switches are used high end (fairly loud) SMB. I'm looking forward to getting a few more ports in the not too distant future.

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2. lmz ◴[05 Jul 25 23:22 UTC] No.44476357[source]▶
I guess multi-Gig base-T (802.3bz) is the future for home networks. Degrading to 5Gbps because of poor link quality is better than just falling back to 1Gbps. The latter will probably just lead to support calls and returns for home-level equipment that advertises 10Gbps.