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Nvidia won, we all lost

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977 points todsacerdoti | 4 comments | 04 Jul 25 21:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.72s | source
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Arainach ◴[05 Jul 25 13:52 UTC] No.44472814[source]▶
Why was the title of this post changed long after posting to something that doesn't match the article title? This editorializing goes directly against HN Guidelines (but was presumably done by the HN team?)
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cbarrick ◴[05 Jul 25 14:47 UTC] No.44473148[source]▶
+1. "Nvidia won, we all lost" sets a very different tone than "NVIDIA is full of shit". It's clearly not the tone the author intended to set.

Even more concerning is that, by editorializing the title of an article that is (in part) about how Nvidia uses their market dominance to pressure reviewers and control the narrative, we must question whether or not the mod team is complicit in this effort.

Is team green afraid that a title like "NVIDIA is full of shit" on the front page of HN is bad for their image or stock price? Was HN pressured to change the name?

Sometimes, editorialization is just a dumb and lazy mistake. But editorializing something like this is a lot more concerning. And it's made worse by the fact that the title was changed by the mods.

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tyre ◴[05 Jul 25 14:56 UTC] No.44473197[source]▶
Okay let’s take off the tin foil hat for a second. HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand.
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blibble ◴[05 Jul 25 15:20 UTC] No.44473362[source]▶
> HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand.

the attempt to steer direction is well hidden, but it is very much there

with https://hnrankings.info/ you can see the correction applied, in real time

the hidden bits applied to dissenting accounts? far less visible

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1. throwawayqqq11 ◴[05 Jul 25 16:21 UTC] No.44473749[source]▶
Oh wow, i always had that gut feeling, but now i know. Stop killing games went from consistent rank 2 to 102 in an instant. And it all happend outside my timezone so i didnt even know it existed here.
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2. Ygg2 ◴[05 Jul 25 19:04 UTC] No.44474780[source]▶
Jesus Christ. That is a massive correction. I fear most of those EU petition numbers are probably bots, designed to sabotage it.
3. p_j_w ◴[05 Jul 25 19:30 UTC] No.44474949[source]▶
HN’s moderation system (posts with lots of flagged comments get derated) seems to really easy to game. Don’t like a story? Have bots post a bunch of inflammatory comments likely to get flagged and it will go away. There’s no way the people who run the site don’t know this, so I don’t know how to possibly make the case that they are actually okay with it.
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4. const_cast ◴[05 Jul 25 19:40 UTC] No.44475001[source]▶
I believe usually when this happens the admins like dang and tomhow manually unflag the post if they think it's relevant. Which... is not a perfect system, but it works. I've seen plenty of posts be flagged, dead, then get unflagged and revived. They'll go in and manually flag comments, too, to get the conversation back on track. So, I think site admins are aware that this is happening.

Also, it's somewhat easy to tell who is a bot. Really new accounts are colored green. I'm sure there's also long-running bots, and I'm not sure how you would find those.