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archagon ◴[] No.44470612[source]
Oh, goody!

Also, ICE has a bigger budget now than most of the world's militaries[1]. But let's not talk about that.

[1]: https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-ice-bill-trump-2093456

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saubeidl ◴[] No.44470731[source]
An organization of goons who grab people off the street and disappear them to concentration camps? Why does that sound so familiar?

Capitalists have always been involved in the rise of fascist movements.

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drstewart ◴[] No.44471179[source]
>Why does that sound so familiar?

Probably because you've seen it repeated so much in your hyper-propaganda bubble of reddit that you've started to believe it

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saubeidl ◴[] No.44471192[source]
I am Austrian. My entire education was dedicated to the rise of fascism and how it could happen and how to make sure it never happens again.

I know what I'm seeing.

Don't believe me? What about subject matter experts that decided to flee the country? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/opinion/yale-canada-fasci...

Or how about an excerpt from a book written based on post-WW2 interviews of Germans? Does any of that sound familiar at all? https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm

> They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

[...]

> "But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

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drstewart ◴[] No.44471233[source]
> They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

Ah, well in that case, it's clear to me Austria is actually the one on the brink of fascism. It's clear to me, having extensively eaten a lot of strudel (makes me an expert in Austria), that it's now a fascist country.

And if you say: ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’ then clearly you're just in denial.

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1. batty_alex ◴[] No.44471436{6}[source]
Really grabbing at straws to dismiss the evidence of your eyes and ears here, huh?
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2. saubeidl ◴[] No.44471438[source]
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past." - Jean Paul Sartre.