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sandreas ◴[] No.44466616[source]
While it may be tempting to go "mini" and NVMe, for a normal use case I think this is hardly cost effective.

You give up so much by using an all in mini device...

No Upgrades, no ECC, harder cooling, less I/O.

I have had a Proxmox Server with a used Fujitsu D3417 and 64gb ecc for roughly 5 years now, paid 350 bucks for the whole thing and upgraded the storage once from 1tb to 2tb. It draws 12-14W in normal day use and has 10 docker containers and 1 windows VM running.

So I would prefer a mATX board with ECC, IPMI 4xNVMe and 2.5GB over these toy boxes...

However, Jeff's content is awesome like always

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layoric ◴[] No.44470088[source]
No ECC is the biggest trade off for me, but the C236 express chipset has very little choice for CPUs, they are all 4 core 8 thread. Ive got multiple x99 platform systems and for a long time they were the king of cost efficiency, but lately the ryzen laptop chips are becoming too good to pass up, even without ECC. Eg Ryzen 5825u minis
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1. mytailorisrich ◴[] No.44470733[source]
For a home NAS, ECC is as needed as it is on your laptop.
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2. vbezhenar ◴[] No.44474508[source]
ECC is essential indeed for any computer. But the laptop situation is truly dire, while it's possible to find some NAS with ECC support.
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3. mytailorisrich ◴[] No.44474854[source]
Most computers don't have ECC. So it might be essential in theory but in practice things work fine without (for standard personal, even work, use cases).