←back to thread

190 points aorloff | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.442s | source
Show context
throw0101d ◴[] No.44467342[source]
Personally I think that this can be considered on the "bug" side of Bitcoin's finite number coins: if, over time, they are lost, then there's a smaller quantity† of currency that is useable to actually do stuff with.

This can make the 'rate of deflation' that occurs worse:

* https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Deflationary_spiral

* https://isps.yale.edu/news/blog/2014/06/the-perils-of-bitcoi...

* https://crypto.bi/deflationary/

† I am aware of satoshis.

replies(8): >>44467392 #>>44467410 #>>44467413 #>>44467486 #>>44467668 #>>44467917 #>>44469713 #>>44469776 #
serial_dev ◴[] No.44467392[source]
When I listen to Bitcoin discussions, one of the advantages people bring up is that there is a limited number of it and you can’t just “print” more.

Considering this, while it is true that all this makes deflation worse, I’d assume most bitcoin hodlers would not mind this.

replies(3): >>44467652 #>>44467687 #>>44470300 #
strogonoff ◴[] No.44470300[source]
It is under-appreciated that inflation actually is desirable in a working economy.

Look at it this way. If your money (in money form) is worth less tomorrow than today, you are incentivised to spend it, thus fueling economic activity of all sorts (from going out and buying a drink to buying a car, traveling, investing). If your money is worth more tomorrow, then you are incentivised to tighten your belt and not spend for as long as you can. At scale, this negatively affects production, economic mobility, and so forth; the rich get richer and hoard the money. I do not believe any of today’s economies can be healthy and competitive (or even functional) with a deflationary currency.

replies(5): >>44470411 #>>44470809 #>>44471639 #>>44472354 #>>44472762 #
1. mkleczek ◴[] No.44470411[source]
More and more people claim this system of stimulated growth is actually wrong and the root cause for global warming.
replies(1): >>44470461 #
2. strogonoff ◴[] No.44470461[source]
Sources who claims this, and details as to how?

I disagree that it is the cause.

The mechanism does not distinguish between “bad economic activity” and “good economic activity”. I.e., the same mechanism applies to positive progress (carbon dioxide sequestration, more expensive technology and techniques reducing environmental impact, etc.), it just requires proper incentive alignment and accounting for bad faith actors via regulation.

A deflationary system with limited supply makes kings and ultimately defeats itself, as your money is decreasingly evidence of your effort and work and increasingly evidence of you having held to it for a while. (It is also a quality of the current system, but less so, and it should be even less so, not more so.)