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OBBB signed: Reinstates immediate expensing for U.S.-based R&D

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336 points tareqak | 6 comments | 05 Jul 25 00:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.673s | source | bottom
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johncole ◴[05 Jul 25 01:59 UTC] No.44469537[source]▶
I think we will see this lead to a boost in software developer employment.
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mlinhares ◴[05 Jul 25 03:06 UTC] No.44469839[source]▶
I doubt it, the narrative is that software engineering is dead and everything will be replaced by AI, so that salaries can continue to be depressed. Just like the original passing didn't really cause much trouble in the general market this repeal will mostly just produce more shareholder value.
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seattle_spring ◴[05 Jul 25 04:18 UTC] No.44470043[source]▶
Anyone who knows anything about software and has used AI for more than 24 hours knows that AI won't be "replacing" software engineering anytime soon.
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1. ldjkfkdsjnv ◴[05 Jul 25 04:29 UTC] No.44470070[source]▶
ive been coding 5+ hours a day almost every day for 15 years. i think ai will replace 70% of SWE in the near future. not employement, but 70% of the current work done by engineers
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2. hightrix ◴[05 Jul 25 05:06 UTC] No.44470205[source]▶
Agreed. I see AI as a major tool upgrade in the same way the IDE was an upgrade from text editors. It will quickly replace the need to do trivial things and greatly reduce the time needed to do complex things.
3. jnfno ◴[05 Jul 25 05:49 UTC] No.44470358[source]▶
I’ve been coding 5+ a day since the late 80s

And I agree. Because ultimately we don’t need that much code in the first place. We need robust data sets.

AI models will enable the data driven machine state dream. Chips that self improve models will boot strap from them and rely on humans to iteratively improve updates.

Coding like it’s 1970 in the 2020s and beyond is not that high tech.

4. zeroonetwothree ◴[05 Jul 25 06:15 UTC] No.44470470[source]▶
I don’t even spend 70% of my time coding. I suspect that’s common and looking at data it’s more like 25% on average. So even if it replaces 100% of coding (unlikely) that’s the extent of the gain.
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5. AnthonyMouse ◴[05 Jul 25 09:06 UTC] No.44471248[source]▶
At which point you're potentially looking at Jevon's Paradox.

Software developers do X and Y. AI thing can now do X, so it's used for that, and it's cheaper, so the number of projects increase because you get more demand at a lower price. Those projects each need someone to do Y.

6. distances ◴[05 Jul 25 10:03 UTC] No.44471537[source]▶
Agreed, seems it's a great day if I get close to 50% of coding time. The rest is various meetings, communication, and code review.

And even with reviews you can currently plausibly automate only the code correctness check part, the juicy part of reviews is always manual testing of the change and doing the logical reasoning if the change is doing a meaningful thing. And no, the ticket with the spec is not a reliable source of this info for an LLM as it's always just a partial understanding of the concept.