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Nvidia won, we all lost

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977 points todsacerdoti | 5 comments | 04 Jul 25 21:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.624s | source
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cherioo ◴[04 Jul 25 22:56 UTC] No.44468628[source]▶
High end GPU has over the last 5 years slowly turning from an enthusiast product into a luxury product.

5 or maybe 10 years ago, high-end GPU are needed to run games at reasonably eye candy setting. In 2025, $500 mid-range GPUs are more than enough. Folks all over can barely tell between High and Ultra settings, DLSS vs FSR, or DLSS FG and Lossless Scaling. There's just no point to compete at $500 price point any more, that Nvidia has largely given up and relegating to the AMD-built Consoles, and integrated graphics like AMD APU, that offer good value in low-end, medium-end, and high-end.

Maybe the rumored Nvidia PC, or the Switch 2, can bring some resurgence.

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ohdeargodno ◴[04 Jul 25 23:06 UTC] No.44468693[source]▶
Not quite $500, but at $650, the 9070 is an absolute monster that outperforms Nvidia's equivalent cards in everything but ray tracing (which you can only turn on with full DLSS framegen and get a blobby mess anyways)

AMD is truly making excellent cards, and with a bit of luck UDNA is even better. But they're in the same situation as Nvidia: they could sell 200 GPUs, ship drivers, maintain them, deal with returns and make $100k... Or just sell a single MI300X to a trusted partner that won't make any waves and still make $100k.

Wafer availability unfortunately rules all, and as it stands, we're lucky neither of them have abandoned their gaming segments for massively profitable AI things.

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1. enraged_camel ◴[04 Jul 25 23:16 UTC] No.44468760[source]▶
I have a 2080 that I'm considering upgrading but not sure which 50 series would be the right choice.
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2. thway15269037 ◴[05 Jul 25 00:05 UTC] No.44469040[source]▶
Grab a used/refurb 3090 then. Probably as legendary card as a 1080Ti.
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3. k12sosse ◴[05 Jul 25 01:03 UTC] No.44469306[source]▶
Just pray that it's a 3090 under that lid when you buy it second hand
4. magicalhippo ◴[05 Jul 25 01:55 UTC] No.44469527[source]▶
I went from a 2080 Ti to a 5070 Ti. Yes it's faster, but for the games I play, not dramatically so. Certainly not what I'm used to doing such a generational leap. The 5070 Ti is noticeably faster at local LLMs, and has a bit more memory which is nice.

I went with the 5070 Ti since the 5080 didn't seem like a real step up, and the 5090 was just too expensive and wasn't in stock for ages.

If I had a bit more patience, I would have waited till the next node refresh, or for the 5090. I don't think any of the other current 50-series cards are worth besides the 5090 it if you're coming from a 2080. And by worth it I mean will give you a big boost in performance.

5. Rapzid ◴[05 Jul 25 07:04 UTC] No.44470671[source]▶
I went from a 3070 to 5070 Ti and it's fantastic. Just finished Cyberpunk Max'd out at 4k with DLSS balanced, 2x frame gen, and reflex 2. Amazing experience.