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    Military leaders aghast as Zuck crashes classified Oval Office meeting

    (www.independent.co.uk)
    56 points CharlesW | 11 comments | 04 Jul 25 16:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.611s | source | bottom
    1. mcswell ◴[04 Jul 25 16:46 UTC] No.44466014[source]▶
    We knew that Hegseth didn't understand (or didn't believe in) security. It's not surprising that Trump, who had highly classified documents laying around in Mar a Lago, doesn't either.

    Years ago, I was in a classified meeting in a SCIF when someone's cell phone went off. The person was immediately escorted out of the room--probably their clearance was revoked, and they were told not to come back. Having a cell phone in a SCIF is bad enough, having it go off inside the SCIF is even worse--and answering it during a classified meeting (or just answering it inside a SCIF) is cause for trouble big.

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    2. ModernMech ◴[04 Jul 25 16:55 UTC] No.44466079[source]▶
    Huh... I had always imagined SCIFs were like faraday cages, so a cell phone wouldn't be able to send or receive any signals.
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    3. xlii ◴[04 Jul 25 16:56 UTC] No.44466092[source]▶
    In case anyone else didn’t know: SCIF stands for "sensitive compartmented information facility" (I assume ;))

    The thing with security is that usually people treat it like a joke or very very seriously. I think that was the latter.

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    5. FL410 ◴[04 Jul 25 16:57 UTC] No.44466095[source]▶
    Why would a cell phone even work in a SCIF?
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    6. HappySweeney ◴[04 Jul 25 16:57 UTC] No.44466099[source]▶
    I'm a bit surprised the entire thing isn't in a faraday cage.
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    7. derektank ◴[04 Jul 25 17:09 UTC] No.44466192[source]▶
    That would be prohibitively expensive in most cases.
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    8. russdill ◴[04 Jul 25 17:32 UTC] No.44466385[source]▶
    If the door is open, signals can get in. Additionally, "gone off" could mean an alarm
    9. sitzkrieg ◴[04 Jul 25 18:41 UTC] No.44466889[source]▶
    i have seen someone lose their clearance and sap after wearing a fitbit into the doorway
    10. sitzkrieg ◴[04 Jul 25 18:42 UTC] No.44466892[source]▶
    its not a faraday cage. just built to spec
    11. sam_lowry_ ◴[04 Jul 25 23:36 UTC] No.44468884{3}[source]▶
    O'rly?

    These are not only Faraday cages, but they also actively transmit noise.

    It's open information since the 70-ies.

    A mobile phone will not work inside.