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480 points riffraff | 5 comments | 04 Jul 25 04:52 UTC | HN request time: 1.012s | source
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bawana ◴[04 Jul 25 11:33 UTC] No.44463587[source]▶
In the novel ‘the three body problem’ , aliens send an ai to corrupt the scientific method so humanity will remain conquerable by the time they arrive. Today our own creation , LLMs and other AI agents, is accomplishing this. I can hardly believe what i read anymore. Two forces are tearing at us. First, the output of ‘science’ is ‘click bait -ified’ for financial survival and AI is amplifying this process. Second, layers of abstraction and commenting on these ‘facts’ further clouds the discussion and prevents actual progress.

I feel like the aliens are here and have subverted humanity already. When will the ‘rest of us’ wake up to act instead of just talk?

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telesilla[dead post] ◴[04 Jul 25 11:42 UTC] No.44463653[source]▶
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ethbr1 ◴[04 Jul 25 12:12 UTC] No.44463843[source]▶
Not spoiling a 17 year old book isn't a reasonable expectation.

Especially since the series continually reaches for increasingly gimmicky "Ah ha, but no one expected ____" deus ex machina to keep its plot moving.

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Gud ◴[04 Jul 25 13:20 UTC] No.44464317[source]▶
Yes it is.

You should always preface with a spoiler tag when writing about about a piece of fiction

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1. ethbr1 ◴[04 Jul 25 13:47 UTC] No.44464530[source]▶
O_o That is insane.

We can quibble over a reasonable length of an embargo, but it's not infinite.

Snape killing Dumbledore or Leia being Luke's sister or Paul Atreides becoming God-Emperor shouldn't shock anyone.

Media is released. People consume media. At some point, everyone who is interested can reasonably be expected to have consumed it.

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2. Gud ◴[04 Jul 25 14:13 UTC] No.44464752[source]▶
A lot of people haven’t seen or read any of these books.

Randomly revealing key plot points in a discussion is just a dick move.

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3. vel0city ◴[04 Jul 25 14:52 UTC] No.44465082[source]▶
Gilgamesh doesn't find eternal life. Oops, should have had a spoiler tag.
4. ethbr1 ◴[04 Jul 25 21:02 UTC] No.44467869[source]▶
It's not my problem if people don't stay current on media.

And if someone cares that much about consuming something that already exists in another form... maybe also be curious enough to consume it there?

I'm certainly not going to censor myself for people who are a decade+ late to the party and refuse to read a book.

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5. Gud ◴[05 Jul 25 10:20 UTC] No.44471627{3}[source]▶
What do you mean, ~problem~?

Nobody is asking you to censor yourself. I am simply asking you to preface a plot spoiler with something.