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dgb23 ◴[] No.44454168[source]
There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption.

It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

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aisenik[dead post] ◴[] No.44455419[source]
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southernplaces7 ◴[] No.44456002[source]
>The payoff is very obviously genocide and the reestablishment of chattel slavery

The Trump administration is deplorable, corrupt, grotesque and ridiculous in so many ways, not to mention dangerous, but seriously, get off it with these kinds of declarations. Such hyperbolic nonsense just shuts down genuine possible inroads into protesting against this government's uglier things and paints those who oppose it as hysterical lunatics.

Genocide has a real definition, and so too does chattel slavery. They're literal, specifically barbaric things whose definition only gets watered down by every random idiotic accusation of either happening because someone can't get a grip on their emotional outrages.

I see zero sign of Trump's government committing or even planning for genocide at the present time, and likewise for chattel slavery.

The deportations to third-party country are deportations, not mass slave sales.

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vdupras ◴[] No.44460047[source]
I think downvoting comments like the parent exacerbate political polarization. Definitions of words such as "genocide" and "slavery" indeed is problematic and arguing like the parent doesn't imply being a Trump apologist.

Remember when Biden called the war in Ukraine a genocide? Didn't you think it watered down the word? If that's a genocide, does it mean we need a new word for holocaust-style genocides? Do we need to start saying things like "oh, yeah, this is a genocide alright, but not quite as much as the real ones in Rwanda and Germany". Is this really what we want to end up having to say?

That being said, prison labor combined with strong ethnic bias in the police force is very, very close to genuine slavery. What was this gross thing with the corrupt judge again. Kids For Cash? or something like this? Slavery.

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nativeit ◴[] No.44461034[source]
It's worth noting that their policies with regard to global health initiatives are currently killing 88-people every hour, on average. Mostly children.

https://www.impactcounter.com/dashboard?view=table&sort=titl...'

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southernplaces7 ◴[] No.44461332[source]
Wow, talk about a completely loaded and dishonest definition of cause and effect. I personally think that the U.S should fund these programs for health overseas, but saying that it no longer funding some of them is killing 88 people per hour is completely off base. The diseases these programs addressed are what kills 88 people per hour, not some U.S policy. Since the U.S doesn't have a legal obligation to fund such programs, you claiming them as responsible is like saying that because you don't donate X money per month to some anti-malaria charity (for example), you're killing some group of children that would have had their malaria treated in those months by your specific donation.
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1. southernplaces7 ◴[] No.44462781[source]
Why not address the very valid argument instead of downvoting like some little child?