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124 points harambae | 17 comments | | HN request time: 1.109s | source | bottom
1. rokkamokka ◴[] No.44461980[source]
Strike dollar from the title and it'll still be true...
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2. qsort ◴[] No.44462152[source]
Strike "the US" as well...
3. 0xy ◴[] No.44462305[source]
The inflation of 2021-24 was a biblical disaster for the working class, and it's nowhere near as bad now. I'd say that makes 2025 a marked improvement from the economic disaster of the last 4 years, and which was backed up in every political poll (economy was issue 1).
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4. the_third_wave ◴[] No.44462537[source]
Approval poll numbers seem to indicate a plurality of US voters agree with much of what the current government is implementing and for the first time in a very long period the majority of US voters seems to think the country is on the right track. You may not like what Trump and his crew are doing but most people did not like what your preferred candidates were doing and planning to do. Given these numbers I'd say "your democracy" (which is a constitutional republic but I'll just borrow some of the oft-heard rhetoric from the "democratic" party) seems to be functioning quite well and certainly a lot better than under the previous regime when approval numbers were abysmal.
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5. buckhx ◴[] No.44463544[source]
What are you talking about? The admins current net approval rating is -6.9% https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-sil... Biden was at a +5% net rating at this point in his term
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6. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.44463720{3}[source]
Approval ratings are just measures of partisanship. Ideally it drops to zero. The fact that it was nearly 40% for a leader experiencing dementia-like symptoms confirmed this with political theoreticians.
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7. mindslight ◴[] No.44465378[source]
The monetary inflation dump in Trump's previous term was early 2020, which then took time to work through asset prices and into consumer prices. So yes the next few years are going to be worse, as the effects of the terrible policies really set in. And unlike last time, we won't have leadership at the helm who might even try pulling up until 2027. And that's assuming enough Americans get their heads on straight to vote out the congress currently rubber stamping this wanton destruction.
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8. justinrubek ◴[] No.44465467[source]
Nice try, but the comment you're replying to didn't use the word democracy at all. Maybe it would help to read it again.

Just because a group of people approve of things happening doesn't make it a good year. My estranged family does and they don't have a grasp on the notion of cause and effect nor do they have an acceptable level of reading comprehension- I do not value their opinion in the slightest l.

9. mindslight ◴[] No.44465501{4}[source]
Biden had a team around him to work with, plus the general separation of responsibilities of independent agencies. So nominal "Biden" was doing just fine regardless of the one man. This time we're getting the full dementia experience from a manic mad king who has already driven away anyone that might tell him no.
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10. wqaatwt ◴[] No.44465678{3}[source]
> -6.9%

Still extremely high by global standards considering everything.

e.g. Hollande in France was at less than -80% not that many years ago.

11. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.44472642{5}[source]
So these polls are about the idea of Biden and not the person? That also supports the idea that polls don’t matter.
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12. mindslight ◴[] No.44473258{6}[source]
Yes, polls are obviously about the administration's actions. And people's opinions of administrations are obviously important - even more so with politicians' tendency to promise everything while campaigning, then focus on different things when actually in office. And this effect is even more pronounced with Trump's signature blend of contradictory word salad and shameless direct lying.
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13. jaybrendansmith ◴[] No.44473652{3}[source]
Yup. And again we conveniently ignore that the prior inflation was a textbook supply shock caused by COVID, and that the US response to it was quite better than the rest of the world. The difference here is the current and pending inflation will be caused by tariffs, and be a compete self-own by the current clown show.
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14. mindslight ◴[] No.44473924{4}[source]
Supply shock exacerbated by trillions of dollars in helicopter money across all levels of society. A good chunk of that was a self-own too, except for voters with the attention span of a gnat and no ability to grok economics ended up blaming the next administration.
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15. mensetmanusman ◴[] No.44474168{7}[source]
So it doesn’t matter if Trump lies then? because the idea of Trump is to lower taxes, protect rural jobs via manufacturing tariffs, prevent millions from cutting in line?
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16. mindslight ◴[] No.44474987{8}[source]
I'm not interested in another Gish gallop. I recall a previous exchange with you which you just dropped once I started digging into the superficial talking points.
17. jaybrendansmith ◴[] No.44481182{5}[source]
Not accurate. US handled the supply shock inflation quite a bit better than everybody else. The trillions was enough to keep the economy afloat, and did not contribute to the inflation. There are charts you can look up. As far as the 'self own' ... I don't think most realize how powerful the propaganda arm is at this point. It is truly a firehose of bullshit and lies.