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1. preetsojitra ◴[] No.44461792[source]
What about the ethical concerns? Scrapping faces of people and feeding them into AI model without their permission.
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2. gkbrk ◴[] No.44462631[source]
It's all public pictures though. Why would I publish a picture of my face if I don't want people to have a picture of my face?
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3. jeauxlb ◴[] No.44462726[source]
I can go into an art gallery but I may not touch the works. Often there aren't physical barriers but we all understand some behaviours are not acceptable.

Similarly, publication of an image on the internet is not implicit permission to use it for any possible purpose, however technically feasible. For example, deepfakes.

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4. gkbrk ◴[] No.44462777{3}[source]
If you draw a mustache on a drawing in an art gallery, you ruin the original for everyone else. If you take the drawing home, no one else has the original any more.

If I download, copy, or edit images sent to my computer, the original is still there.

The artist puts their art on the gallery with the intent that people will enter that gallery and look at it without touching. The image uploaders uploads the image with the intent that a copy (not the original) gets sent to our computers when we look at Google Reviews.

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5. eddythompson80 ◴[] No.44462961[source]
Honestly the answer is “most people didn’t really expect that to be a thing when they did that” add those to all the people who “didn’t know that I was giving it to everyone. I thought this was between me and.. like.. yelp and people in my city”

It’s very confusing to technical people, but plenty of people were (still are) confused by the concept of the internet. What do you think all those people posting private information on each other’s facebook walls were doing? They are on their computer talking to their family member. How is anybody else getting in here?

6. preetsojitra ◴[] No.44463061{4}[source]
You're misinterpreting the analogy.

- Drawing a mustache on the art = Vandalizing the original data (not what's happening).

- Taking the art home = Deleting the original data (also not what's happening).

- Scraping faces for an AI = Following visitors around the gallery, taking secret photos of them, and publishing a book that rates them by attractiveness.

The fact that the gallery is "public" does not make that behavior acceptable. The same is true here. "Publicly viewable" does not mean "publicly available for any use."

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7. gkbrk ◴[] No.44463161{5}[source]
> Following visitors around the gallery, taking secret photos of them, and publishing a book that rates them by attractiveness.

Gallery visitors aren't publicly publishing gallery reviews with their pictures. This website doesn't go into restaurants and take pictures of the customers.

All the pictures here were attached to restaurant reviews by the person themselves with the expectation that the picture would be sent to others and be available to people not currently in the restaurant.

8. brigandish ◴[] No.44463175{5}[source]
> taking secret photos of them,

The visitors took the photo, supplied the photo, and put it in a public place.

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11. Dracophoenix ◴[] No.44463917{3}[source]
Similarly, publication of an image on the internet is not implicit permission to use it for any possible purpose, however technically feasible.

Are memes, or for that matter, satire and parody unethical?