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You sound very delusional, so many points in your text to be corrected but i dont think its worth it.

Just one nasty question: if you, as an assumed conservative, had to choose between conserving capitalism or the environment, what would it be?

Why does anyone bother to respond to a throwaway?

Not OP you are responding to but someone made a great point.

Conservatives will design a society were they assume they are at the top. More left leaning people will design a society with no concept of where they will be in it.

This sounds wrong. Hierarchies are inevitable because there will always be differences among individuals. Leftists will design a society where these hierarchies will not be that astronomically high, to raise the bottom ceiling.

Or do you know any popular left leaning politician that advocates for full blown communism instead of just tax reform?

What you called a good point isnt, its diffamation of the left. And btw, imo full blown communism is equally delusional as busines-as-usual capitalism.

Alternatively, right-wingers work to elevate the minority at the top and left-wingers seek to raise the standards of those at the bottom.

Instead of cheap rhetoric, a few 'corrections' would have been more to the point. This isn't the MailOnline comments section.

> they want the west to fall.

Then go ahead, why dont you correct him :-)

I had too many meandering, unfruitful conversations with such people where i was way too polite. At some point you have to call it by its name: pathological idiocy.

Man, this really hits differently in the context of this topic :/

Climate will disrupt society if we don't act.

People are proposing comparatively minor fixes to avoid unmitigated disaster.

Yeah, almost as if some of them were just plain dumb common sense, which makes them even more relevant

While funny, naivity to power dynamics is constant. We never know who will rule. I even conservatives are extremely lured by revolution if they have a leader that is more "conservative" than the opposition.

I, unlike humanitarians, will always take the side of humanity. And I use the word humanitarian here in the ordinary sense, as meaning one who upholds the claims of all creatures against those of humanity.

The simplest action is nuclear, why do no prominent climate activist groups support this? Why is the solution always something stupid like giving toxic chemicals to cows or to switching to paper straws when drinking out of plastic lined cups?

The answer is simple: They want societal collapse, and the reason why they are getting more and more violent and switching to other causes is because the societal collapse promised to them by climate change is not coming, and it looks like it will never come.

Many climate activists are pro-nuclear. You built yourself a strawman to argue against.

Of the most prominent climate activist groups, which are pro-nuclear?