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High-fidelity simultaneous speech-to-speech translation

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112 points Bluestein | 5 comments | 03 Jul 25 20:27 UTC | HN request time: 1.01s | source
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iambateman ◴[03 Jul 25 22:03 UTC] No.44459541[source]▶
This is why I wonder about the value of language learning for reasons other than “I’m really passionate about it.”

We are so close to interfaces that reduce the language barrier by a lot…

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nisa ◴[04 Jul 25 00:41 UTC] No.44460286[source]▶
It's not personal but I can't help myself to think that's such a sad post here. Reducing learning a different culture through language by plugging in an earbud. Is the battery is gone or your phone is stolen you realize you can't automate anything and that you've learned nothing. It's not about the tech if it works it's amazing it's like babelfish but it's so shallow to assume everything has some direct and simple "value" that can be replaced by some machine or even better some paid service. It's so common here. Is this an US thing?
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CamperBob2 ◴[04 Jul 25 00:59 UTC] No.44460332[source]▶
It's a much older theme, going all the way back to the Biblical legend of the Tower of Babel (hence the name of the fish.) Like most of that material, the Babel myth was probably stolen from the Babylonians or even older cultures.

The powers that be -- whether gods or governors -- tend to feel threatened when people can communicate freely with each other. Don't join their side.

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nisa ◴[04 Jul 25 01:09 UTC] No.44460362[source]▶
I think you misunderstood my post. It's wonderful technology and a great aid. I just wanted to say there is so much more to learning a foreign language (and culture) than machine translation - even if almost perfect. At least that was my take away from learning Czech as a German. Lot's of subtle details.
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1. CamperBob2 ◴[04 Jul 25 01:21 UTC] No.44460399[source]▶
No, I was making a larger point: there shouldn't be any such thing as a "foreign language." We're all members of the same species. (Yes, even Americans.) Technology like this is what will realize that ideal.

If cultures around the world had all grown up alongside each other, speaking the same language, and someone came along and said, "That's no good, every nation and every ethnic group should speak a different language," we wouldn't rush to embrace that point of view, would we? Who would benefit from such a policy? Certainly not you and me.

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2. boplicity ◴[04 Jul 25 01:29 UTC] No.44460427[source]▶
Change is hard, but diversity is good, and certainly better than monoculture (of language).
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3. nisa ◴[04 Jul 25 01:30 UTC] No.44460435[source]▶
Ah I see. I disagree because it's impossible. Even the next village or town has a different language even if it's subtle. I'm more for embracing the differences.

On the other hand we are probably almost there - it's English and social media is the global teacher.

4. CamperBob2 ◴[04 Jul 25 01:50 UTC] No.44460507[source]▶
What's the point of diversity if people can't communicate with each other, or if only educated elites within each subculture can do so? Diversity should bring different people together, not divide them artificially.
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5. boplicity ◴[04 Jul 25 13:09 UTC] No.44464212{3}[source]▶
The irony here, is that diversity is actually extremely aligned with conservative values: freedom of expression and the ability to do what one wants (without regard to others).

Freedom of diversity allows for the flourishing of unique ideas and perspectives, which in turn, has many benefits, in terms of the creation of new value in unexpected ways. Diversity, in a sense, can be a synonym for independence and freedom.