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Abrego Garcia Was Beaten and Tortured in El Salvador Prison, Lawyers Say

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115 points perihelions | 1 comments | 03 Jul 25 06:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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atoav ◴[03 Jul 25 06:39 UTC] No.44452285[source]▶
Which explains why the administration has acted the way it did.

What has the US become? I am not surprised by the fact that Trump is a fascist, this is a thing I knew in 2016. What surprised me is how little popular resistance he has gotten and with which ease the US population gave away its rights.

I remember a time where americans scolded me online for my countries laws preventing certain types of speech (related to nazi insignia and Hitler), you guys do realize that if your government can just make up bullshit about you and send you to a torture camp abroad without due process, that free speech is no longer free?

Back then you people were adamant that your second amendment was there to protect free speech. But my suspicion back then was that this was mostly a thing guys who grew up in the comfort of a first world civilization would say to come across as tough and manly. And guess what.

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easyThrowaway ◴[03 Jul 25 07:41 UTC] No.44452604[source]▶
As someone from outside US but who spent some time in LA can't really believe anyone ever took those "second amendment" guys at face value.

It was always the most obvious cover for "say or do something we don't like and we shot you". The current US administration policies were always their end game.

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ghufran_syed ◴[03 Jul 25 07:55 UTC] No.44452681[source]▶
why would this be the case? Taking the 2nd amendment argument to its logical conclusion, wouldn't the speaker also have a firearm?
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1. johnnyanmac ◴[04 Jul 25 00:08 UTC] No.44460143{3}[source]▶
The logical conclusion, yes. I hope we don't need to get to that point.

The current reality is that the people who say this often say it to those they know don't have guns themselves to fire back with. Bullies, to put it in the simplest terms. They only take easy targets.