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dgb23 ◴[] No.44454168[source]
There are so many red flags with this administration that I lost count. Policing speech, suppressing information, cutting research funding, cutting social programs, increasing spending and intensity for deportations, deporting people for political affiliation, an unnecessarily disruptive economic policy and many reports of general incompetence, lying and corruption.

It's all so bleak. Where is the payoff?

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aisenik[dead post] ◴[] No.44455419[source]
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southernplaces7 ◴[] No.44456002[source]
>The payoff is very obviously genocide and the reestablishment of chattel slavery

The Trump administration is deplorable, corrupt, grotesque and ridiculous in so many ways, not to mention dangerous, but seriously, get off it with these kinds of declarations. Such hyperbolic nonsense just shuts down genuine possible inroads into protesting against this government's uglier things and paints those who oppose it as hysterical lunatics.

Genocide has a real definition, and so too does chattel slavery. They're literal, specifically barbaric things whose definition only gets watered down by every random idiotic accusation of either happening because someone can't get a grip on their emotional outrages.

I see zero sign of Trump's government committing or even planning for genocide at the present time, and likewise for chattel slavery.

The deportations to third-party country are deportations, not mass slave sales.

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aisenik[dead post] ◴[] No.44456134[source]
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southernplaces7 ◴[] No.44456340[source]
Feel free to point me to a single instance of Trump administration genocide and i'll happily reconsider my thoughts. I'm no fan of this government, but hyperbole does nobody any good.
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1. xerox13ster ◴[] No.44456524[source]
The progressively worsening attacks on the ability of trans people to exist in daily life.

Depending on how you define the Ten Stages of Genocide, we for sure have crossed the 3rd stage of genocide with all the state level anti trans bills and Trumps executive orders, and they’ve also engaged in stages 4 and 6. They’re not pressing on the brake, there’s a lead block on the gas pedal and they have repeatedly professed to wanting to erase us from public life. Trump released a campaign video about it in Feb/March of 2023.

https://www.genocidewatch.com/tenstages

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2. southernplaces7 ◴[] No.44456997[source]
>The progressively worsening attacks on the ability of trans people to exist in daily life.

Really? Care to name an example of their being persecuted legally by the administration in the way you claim? For example, there were multiple huge gay pride parades in the U.S just recently, which are visibly and vocally attended by trans people too, and I didn't see federal agents or police of any kind going at them at any point.

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3. spit2wind ◴[] No.44458139[source]
Regarding "persecuted legally", this administration is actively trying to dismantle the rule of law and flouts it.

I appreciate you looking for examples. This podcast episode will give you some, as well as a lens through which you may spot others.

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/common-sense-324-whats-goo...

4. ethbr1 ◴[] No.44458375[source]
Arbitrarily overriding trans people's declared gender on passport applications?

https://www.genderjusticeleague.org/trans-non-binary-passpor...

5. xerox13ster ◴[] No.44466338[source]
I literally named one: Trump's anti-trans sports executive order.

Care to read more than a sentence at a time?

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6. aaaja ◴[] No.44466822{3}[source]
That executive order is for the benefit of female athletes who have been disadvantaged and adversely affected by male-inclusion policy. The order is not "anti-trans". Its purpose is to restore fairness and improve safety in women's sports.
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7. xerox13ster ◴[] No.44512319{4}[source]
Your tortured use of language reveals the twisted thought process behind them.

In your statement, you erase trans people and redefined them as something else that fits your small worldview. That is in and of itself inherently anti-trans.

Someone being a trans woman does not make their participation in sports “male inclusion”. They are a woman if they transitioned to become a woman, and saying they are not and should be excluded because you said so is anti trans.