By the way, this also applies to the "Free market" ideal...
Capitalism encourages you to put your butt in your own seat and reap the rewards of your efforts.
Of course it also provides you the decision making to keep your butt in someone else’s seat if the risk vs. reward of going your own isn’t worth it.
And then it allows your employer to put another butt in your seat if you don’t adopt efficiency patterns.
So: capitalism is compatible with communism as an option, but it’s generally a suboptimal option for one or both parties.
There being problems with absolute libertarian free markets doesn't mean all policies that evoke the free market ideal must be disregarded, nor does the problems with communism mean that all communist actions must be ignored.
We can see a problem with an ideal, but still wish to replicate the good parts.
For example, mislabelling socialism as communism. The police department, fire department, and roads are all socialist programs. Only a moron would call this communism and yet for some reason universal healthcare...
There's also this nonsense when someone says "That's the free market at work", and I'm like, if we really lived in a free market then you'd be drinking DuPont's poison right now.
Using the words "Communism" and "Free market" just show a (often intentional) misunderstanding of the nuance of how things actually work in our society.
The communism label must be the most cited straw man in all of history at this point.
Here in EU, if not stated in your work agreement, it's pretty common people work full time job and also as a self-employed contractor for other companies.
So when I'm finished with my work, HO of course, I just work on my "contractor" projects.
Honestly, I wouldn't sign a full time contract banning me from other work.
And if you have enough customers, you just drop full time job. And just pay social security and health insurance, which you must pay by law anyway.
And specially in my country, it's even more ridiculous that as self-employed you pay lower taxes than full time employees, which truth to be told are ridiculously high. Nearly 40% of your salary.
First time I'm hearing this. Where in the EU are you? I don't know anybody doing this, but it could depend on the country (I'm in the nordics).
Freelancing as a side hustle may be forbidden if your employer refuses
And it makes sense to pay more taxes since you also have more social benefits (paid leaves, retirement money and unemployment money), nothing is free
tbh, if im gonna bust my ass I'd rather own the thing.
Productivity multiplies x2 You keep your job x0.5 Your salary x0.8 (because the guy we just fired will gladly do your job for less) Your work hours x1.4 (because now we expect you to do the work of 2 people, but didn’t account for all the overhead that comes with it)
Any employer with 2 brain cells will figure out that you are more productive as a developer by using AI tools, they will mandate all developers use it. Then that's the new bar and everyone's salary stays the same.
In true capitalist market you end up with oligarchy.
There is nothing ideal about communism. I'd rather own my production tools and be as productive as I want to be. I'd rather build wealth over trading opportunities, I'd rather hire people and reinvest earnings. That is ideal.
Who in the actual real world with any authority at all is telling you you can't be as productive as you want to be, build wealth, hire people, and reinvest your earnings?
Just because it hasn't been "successfully implemented" according to your personal opinion doesn't mean it cannot be scrutinized.
That's like if there is a sign that says "do not cross 3km/h" when someone says "that's too slow" you go "a-hah! straw man! How do you know you can't go 300kmph with that in place? nobody implemented that sign before!". Socrates would be proud.
If you don't address that, you'll end up with a "dictatorship of the proletariat".
There are always loopholes and ways to work around which our tax code will happily discover and kill year on year.
So you get to pick how you want to pay tax but the amount usually isn’t much different when you get to the highest brackets
OK but that's irrelevant to my post. There's lots of books and manifestos that say lots of stupid things. You're arguing as if this manifesto is a real threat, and I'm saying "show me this threat". This isn't a real person with any impact on your day to day, like say a politician. It's a fantasy opposition.
> Just because it hasn't been "successfully implemented" according to your personal opinion doesn't mean it cannot be scrutinized.
OK sure, where? Where is this real world communism that meets the manifesto you are railing against?
> That's like if there is a sign that says "do not cross 3km/h" when someone says "that's too slow" you go "a-hah! straw man! How do you know you can't go 300kmph with that in place? nobody implemented that sign before!". Socrates would be proud.
OK that's an awkward analogy. It's more like someone wrote a manifesto that said cars shouldn't go over 3km/h and you want to use this "slow manifesto" to argue that any laws that would slow you down are some sort of slippery slope in to "slowmunism".
No one with any authority in the real world is trying to implement the communist manifesto on to you. Not even the terrifying Bernie Sanders wants anything to do with communism. For the love of god, there is no communist threat. You can relax.
But I get it. You are basically arguing that nothing and nobody exists or ever existed or do or does anything to anything or anyone or had any ideas and arguing ideas or what people do or could do or would do is pointless.
Well, have fun with that. Sorry all this thread space was a waste.
And so now you are just putting words in my mouth I assume because you have no argument. I can’t even parse this.
You started an argument with a stance I never took by railing against a bogeyman I never advanced. And now you’re doing it again.
If communism was anything more than an impractical ideal then you should have been able to point out where it actually exists. But of course it doesn’t exist. It’s just a fantasy. Maybe you want it to exist so you can point a finger and say “see what happens when you don’t do what I want?”?