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rckt ◴[] No.44442199[source]
Considering how everything is rigged in favor for the rich I don't have high hopes for this. But it would be great if they really come up with a system that makes sense and offers equal tax regimes for everybody. Right now if I'm not mistaken in Spain the most taxed people (in terms of ratio) are those who earn < ~300K per year.
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diggan ◴[] No.44442248[source]
> Right now if I'm not mistaken in Spain the most taxed people (in terms of ratio) are those who earn < ~300K per year.

You are mistaken. Currently, the higher income you have here, the higher tax rate you have, where the highest tax rate on income sits at 47%, which you get hit by when your income is above 300K/year. People between 60K and 300K sits at 45%.

And then there are regional differences, someone in Andalucía don't pay the same amount of taxes as someone who lives in Catalunya for example, where the top tax rate is 50%.

Even taking into account other taxes we have, you still end up paying more in taxes the more you earn, unless you start engaging in schemes to lessen your tax burden, obviously. Although the social security is capped, so it does increase slower once you go beyond the cap, but it doesn't start regressing which your comment hinted at.

Edit: important to note that the tax rates are all marginal tax rates, maybe that was a bit unclear.

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foota ◴[] No.44442263[source]
Wow, a 45% tax starting at 60k is kinda unreal.
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Andrew_nenakhov ◴[] No.44442459[source]
That's socialism for you.
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diggan ◴[] No.44442544[source]
Yeah, it's great :) Me, with high income, can help those with lower income and even those that cannot work, and I don't have to do anything more than filling out some papers once a year. I wouldn't want it any other way.
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Andrew_nenakhov ◴[] No.44442568[source]
Move to Cuba then. It's like a little part of the USSR in a time capsule. Quite a surreal place for people like me who were born in the USSR.
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diggan ◴[] No.44444510[source]
> Move to Cuba then

What seems to indicate I didn't like where I currently live? Not sure why I'd want to live in something similar to the USSR, that sounds all-around bad. Did I misunderstand something or are you misunderstanding what I've been writing?

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Andrew_nenakhov ◴[] No.44447947[source]
I think you are misunderstanding socialism and what it brings to its victims. Cuba is a very good demo of what socialism eventually results in.
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1. mandmandam ◴[] No.44454151[source]
It seems more than a little disingenuous to inflict trillions of dollars in damage through sanctions on a small island nation, then blame their economic policy (namely, not bending the knee to the US) for their situation.

> The United Nations estimated in 2023 the total economic damage to the Cuban economy to be in the "trillions of dollars" since inception [1958].

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_...

Putting that into perspective, a trillion dollars would be about $100,000 for every man woman and child in Cuba today.

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2. Andrew_nenakhov ◴[] No.44459876[source]
I had the misfortune of being born in very socialistic USSR, so please, don't preach to about the joys of socialism to me or others who had actually experienced them.

And yes, Cuban economy would have imploded even without sanctions, just like Venezuela's did.

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3. mandmandam ◴[] No.44462643[source]
Your personal experience in one (heavily sanctioned and attacked) country doesn't change the facts, and it's weird you think it does.

> yes, Cuban economy would have imploded even without sanctions, just like Venezuela's did.

That would carry more weight - or any weight at all - if you addressed the argument. $100,000 per person is significant.

And using Venezuela to make your point is very silly, considering they were hit with massive sanctions as well.