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archildress ◴[] No.44449673[source]
I just feel extremely sad about the mass quantity of events like this happening right now because they are all aggregate to huge negative effects but the average person knows nothing of it. It feels so unfixable.
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SchemaLoad ◴[] No.44450869[source]
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DaSHacka[dead post] ◴[] No.44451230[source]
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PaulDavisThe1st ◴[] No.44451290[source]
https://fosstodon.org/@georgetakei@universeodon.com/11478482...

(proposed/desired reductions in federally funded (NSF) science positions for FY 2026. 250,000 (75%) reduction in numbers)

EDIT: see also: https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/american-science-bra...

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DaSHacka ◴[] No.44451388[source]
Pulling back on federally-funded research grants for the sciences does not address how the economy, hard power, and culture of the States will completely fall off the map leaving an "irrelevant nation" though.
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noobermin ◴[] No.44451493[source]
The US has no real exports. All of its economic might was because it has its top tier market, and all that wealth is essentially from its soft power and position. The more you peel off that soft power, the weaker that position especially as wealthy and educated people leave.

I don't agree that the US won't be relevant, it's more like the US will resemble the position of Russia in the next decade than the position it is in right now.

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hollerith ◴[] No.44451553[source]
The US is exporting over $3 trillion worth of stuff per year:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/exports

China exports more, but China also must import more, including more of the things needed for the survival of its people, like food, fertilizer, fuel.

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Buttons840 ◴[] No.44451809[source]
The US exports aircraft, vehicles, and medicine, and the rest of the exports are just raw stuffs, like oil or corn. How's Boeing looking these days? Is the US auto industry where exciting new technologies are coming from? Unless the US is going to be great because we export more coal, then I too expect some decline.

US exports: https://www.ondeck.com/resources/every-states-top-import-exp...

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hollerith ◴[] No.44451941[source]
The last big round of global innovation was internet services, of which I'm pretty sure (not having looked it up) that US exports represent the majority of world exports.

Apple keeps half the sales price of every iPhone whereas the last I saw Foxconn gets only a few dollars per phone for the final assembly. It used to be that most of the expensive components (display, memory) in the iPhone were supplied by Japan, S Korea and Taiwan, but I admit that that might have changed over the years.

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garte ◴[] No.44452418{6}[source]
It's about the "next big thing" not what happened 20 years ago.
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1. hollerith ◴[] No.44454119{7}[source]
Sure, but how are you and I supposed to know which country will win the export market for the next big thing?

We could guess, but there's been a lot of guesses (confidently made out to be facts and inevitabilities) made in this thread so far. I'm trying to ground the discussion in actual facts.