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givemeethekeys ◴[] No.44450138[source]
Are institutions elsewhere massively increasing funding and positions?

Aren't all the non-bankruptible tuition fees providing plenty of funding already? Where's that money going? The football team?

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the_snooze ◴[] No.44450186[source]
I don't know where that money is going, but from my own experience, research at universities really isn't supported by tuition money. At least in STEM, PhD students are paid for by grants and contracts that their advisors secured from sources like NSF, DARPA, NIH, NSA, etc. Those are the people actually execute the research.

You might want to say tuition should support research, but the reality is that it doesn't.

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ribosometronome ◴[] No.44450216[source]
Why would we want tuition to support research?
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sevensor ◴[] No.44450372[source]
If we assume science still has new things to tell the world, who better for researchers to share their discoveries with than the next generation? That’s the argument, anyway. In practice, it’s a crapshoot. Many researchers are dreadful educators due to incentives, training, and disposition. Every now and then you’ll run across a researcher who is also a great educator, but there’s no institutional force that pushes them in the right direction.
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bobthepanda ◴[] No.44450431[source]
That explains why you would want researchers to teach students, but not why students (who generally have little to no income to speak of and are already struggling with university costs in the US) should directly pay for research
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1. specialist ◴[] No.44450478[source]
There's no shortage of voc-techs and colleges for teaching skills & trades.

I personally think undergraduate at a big (research) university is bad for most students. But the prestige ain't nothing.