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1. saubeidl ◴[] No.44446181[source]
Firefox is good these days!

Mozilla (despite its issues) is nowhere near as evil as Google and a browser monopoly is good for nobody.

Manifest v2 will stay supported on FF - uBlock will keep working properly.

It's time to switch. If you would rather have a UI like Arc, give Zen a shot! (It's what I use!)

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2. edhelas ◴[] No.44446296[source]
Long live the Red Panda <3
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4. BuckRogers ◴[] No.44447346[source]
I used Firefox for roughly 19 years at least or a bit more. I switched to Edge and have been very happy for years now. I didn't know they committed to supporting V2 but it does appear they intend to as long as it serves user choice and privacy needs.

I left because they kept stripping features out that I was used to whether it was my RSS toolbar feeds or something else. I forgot which feature removal was the final straw, or if it was a bug or two that irked me. While I was never a Chrome user, I found Edge was an alternative that I was happy with. I also see a lot of benefit to native browsers. Ironically, that I learned about from Mozilla's own devblogs.

Supporting V2 like this is the exact opposite of what drove me away. I'm cruising so happily on Edge that I'm unsure if I'm willing to do another shift, but I am going to reconsider my life choices.

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5. snapplebobapple ◴[] No.44447818[source]
stock firefox is decent but, depending on your goals, there are better flavors. If security is really important there is librewolf and if you care way less about security and just want awesome then floorp is pretty sweet. For me sidebery brings it all together because it lets you do things like set per container socks5, which is a game changer for me (default is all traffic through my favorite vpn provider, but I have containers to make my browser look like my local ip, American, etc.)
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6. DyslexicAtheist ◴[] No.44448002[source]
sounds great, how do I install Edge on Debian?
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7. ossusermivami ◴[] No.44448388{3}[source]
you have a .deb there https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/download?form=MM145U (i don't use it, just saying)
8. gruez ◴[] No.44448608[source]
>security is really important there is librewolf

Does librewolf do anything that you can't do via user.js?

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9. remram ◴[] No.44449852[source]
As an outsider, it seems weird to me that you would go to Edge when you are unsatisfied by Mozilla's spotty long-term support. Edge exists because Microsoft dropped support for IE (and then for their own rendering engine altogether when they switched to Chromium). It seems to me that they have a strictly worse track record in the aspect you care about.

Or maybe I am wrong about the facts? I never used Edge.

10. snapplebobapple ◴[] No.44450540{3}[source]
you would have to look at their website. I dont know
11. BuckRogers ◴[] No.44450795{3}[source]
I don't know what you mean by this. For one, I wasn't trying to sell it to you. I don't care what you use at all. Two, I'm using it on Debian.
12. 1vuio0pswjnm7 ◴[] No.44451232[source]
"Mozilla (despite its issues) is nowhere near as evil as Google and a browser monopoly is good for nobody."

Truthfully, it is good for somebody. For example, it is good for Google.

By extension, it is also good for Mozilla because Mozilla sends FF user data, e.g., default search query data, to Google in exchange for money.

If Google's search business declines due to loss of monopoly (aka competition) and as a result Google decides to stop funding Mozilla, then that's bad for somebody.

Perhaps the reader can figure out who that somebody might be.

re: "nowhere near as evil"

Why would I want to use the lesser of two evils when I can generally avoid popular modern browsers altogether. Zero evil.

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13. uallo ◴[] No.44452804[source]
Fully agree. With Multi-Account Containers [1] and the recent addition of tab groups [2] / vertical tabs [3], Firefox got even better.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

[2] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/

[3] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/vertical-tabs-and-the-fi...

14. Steven420 ◴[] No.44455567[source]
> Why would I want to use the lesser of two evils when I can generally avoid popular modern browsers altogether. Zero evil.

What browser are you using?

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15. JohnTHaller ◴[] No.44457730{3}[source]
Most (but not all) folks with posts like this invariably use Chrome
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17. saubeidl ◴[] No.44458071{4}[source]
How is that zero evil?
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35. 1vuio0pswjnm7 ◴[] No.44461087[source]
This comment is submitted without using a browser

Not that it matters, but I am using a 935-character Bourne shell script

No Bash, no cURL

WWW users are free to choose whatever software they like

36. acheong08 ◴[] No.44475737{3}[source]
It just has good defaults. I don't have to spend time configuring everything. I'm sure you can get the same results elsewhere but why bother