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Microsoft to Cut 9k Workers in Second Wave of Major Layoffs

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209 points htrp | 7 comments | 02 Jul 25 13:26 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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shadowtree ◴[02 Jul 25 15:14 UTC] No.44444750[source]▶
This pairs well with:

1 - Microsoft investing 3bn USD in India-based developers: https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-invest-3-bln-ex...

2 - Microsoft having 4700 H1B filings for fiscal 2025: https://www.myvisajobs.com/employer/microsoft/

Utterly predictable behavior by Satya Nadella.

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amendegree ◴[02 Jul 25 15:50 UTC] No.44445232[source]▶
Not to hate on immigrants… but shouldn’t H1B’s be the first on the chopping block of layoffs? Hard to imagine all those H1Bs are so unique that others already employed can’t replace them.
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darth_avocado ◴[02 Jul 25 16:19 UTC] No.44445565[source]▶
So you are hating on immigrants…
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1. onlyrealcuzzo ◴[02 Jul 25 16:49 UTC] No.44445931[source]▶
It's not quite that reductive.

If the point of the program is A, and you think it's being used as B, it's fair to ask if the point of the program is really A or if it's actually B.

Just pointing that out or asking the question does not mean you "hate immigrants".

You might! But I don't think it's guaranteed.

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2. darth_avocado ◴[02 Jul 25 17:16 UTC] No.44446282[source]▶
> Hard to imagine all those H1Bs are so unique that others already employed can’t replace them.

I think the language speaks for itself

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3. amendegree ◴[02 Jul 25 18:01 UTC] No.44446875[source]▶
Yes, it’s pretty clear that MS is abusing the H1B program. Which is supposed to be used only when no local talent can be found… if you’re firing 1000s of local people I have a hard time believing they are truly less skilled than the H1Bs being hired.

Most engineers (H1Bs, and not) I’ve met aren’t exceptional. Saying that isn’t xenophobic.

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4. darth_avocado ◴[02 Jul 25 18:15 UTC] No.44447053{3}[source]▶
They are firing people in the sales, gaming etc and the H1B hiring is in other orgs. AND the layoffs are global, not just in the US.
5. mathverse ◴[02 Jul 25 19:07 UTC] No.44447603{3}[source]▶
It's also bizarre...all those american-indian or indian CEOs firing americans and replacing them with indians.

I mean lol..have u heard of american-czech CEO doing that to americans with czechs. Not really right...

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6. darth_avocado ◴[02 Jul 25 21:06 UTC] No.44448836{4}[source]▶
American-Whatever CEOs cut American jobs and ship them abroad all the time. For software American-whatever CEOs use India as a hub for offshore hiring, because that’s where they have options. If tomorrow Mexico or Latin American countries have a lot of software engineers available and are cheaper than India, the jobs would go there.

What’s really bizarre is that when the CEO happens to be Indian American, there’s a problem and a conspiracy.

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7. mathverse ◴[04 Jul 25 08:35 UTC] No.44462463{5}[source]▶
Nope this is not the case.