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idkwhattocallme ◴[] No.44444622[source]
For the most part, I'm indifferent to layoffs. Companies over hire and then course correct. It's part of the game. But for MSFT, it rubs me the wrong way. In the past 5 years, their stock has soared (150% on stock and doubled in valuation). They are insanely profitable ($82B profit). They are diverse (no existential business risk). The fact that they are unceremoniously laying off 30K of the people that helped them get there drives home it's just a paycheck, do your job, but know it can and will end when convenient for the company. I know folks will argue, low performers, but really. This "productivity apps" company hired them, onboarded them, made $82B in profit, surely they can figure out how to uplevel folks. Also how do you have a layoff every couple of months for 3 years. Thinking about the middle class in the previous generation, it was unions that effectively ensured a labor job meant a secure future. I wonder if that's the solution (again).
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1. heathrow83829 ◴[] No.44445722[source]
a company doesn't keep you because you performed well. they keep an employee because they need them to be more profitable, nothing more, nothing less.
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2. trod1234 ◴[] No.44445850[source]
In fairness they aren't a real company anymore, they are more like state apparatus/granted monopoly.

The profitability they embraced was derived from surveillance capitalism which comes from a money-printer seeing as the government is the one paying for it.

It was short-term up-front profit, followed by what inevitably comes after where they pay it back and more. They are laying people off because they wanted that short term profit more than they wanted to do business. There is a potential that they may chase this having the same dynamics as deflation, given that free money is largely no longer available suddenly (which pops the bubble).

The people making those decisions knew the laws and countries would catch up to them eventually but they still did it.