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marcus_holmes ◴[] No.44439454[source]
2025: if you're logged in, then we check your age to see if you can do or see some stuff

2027: the companies providing the logins must provide government with the identities

2028: because VPNs are being used to circumvent the law, if the logging entity knows you're an Australian citizen, even if you're not in Australia or using an Aussie IP address then they must still apply the law

2030: you must be logged in to visit these specific sites where you might see naked boobies, and if you're under age you can't - those sites must enforce logins and age limits

2031: Australian ISPs must enforce the login restrictions because some sites are refusing to and there are loopholes

2033: Australian ISPs must provide the government with a list of people who visited this list of specific sites, with dates and times of those visits

2035: you must be logged in to visit these other specific sites, regardless of your age

2036: you must have a valid login with one of these providers in order to use the internet

2037: all visits to all sites must be logged in

2038: all visits to all sites will be recorded

2039: this list of sites cannot be visited by any Australian of any age

2040: all visits to all sites will be reported to the government

2042: your browser history may be used as evidence in a criminal case

Australian politicians, police, and a good chunk of the population would love this.

Australia is quietly extremely authoritarian. It's all "beer and barbies on the beach" but that's all actually illegal.

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1. t0lo ◴[] No.44439492[source]
If only there was a name for this fallacy. Something slope something
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2. tbrownaw ◴[] No.44439579[source]
So, is this particular slope likely to be slippery? Do governments have a history of looking for ways to control what information people can see, or looking for ways to identify people who post disfavored information?
3. SchemaLoad ◴[] No.44439674[source]
Slippery slope is only a fallacy when there is no reason to believe the end state is likely or desired.

It seems quite likely that governments want to continuously chip away at privacy.

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4. its-summertime ◴[] No.44439749[source]
Slippery slope is specifically about opening the gates to further slipping. This clearly isn't the case since there is going to be slipping regardless of this specific instance going through all the way or not.
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5. fc417fc802 ◴[] No.44440211{3}[source]
> It's wrong to call this a slippery slope because we're not at the top but instead already well on our way down a slope that is indeed slippery.

Not a convincing take.

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6. biggidywiggidy ◴[] No.44440277[source]
more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incrementalism
7. Cartoxy ◴[] No.44440831{4}[source]
Australia is already living in a full-blown surveillance state. Over 330,000 metadata access requests were approved in a single year—no warrant needed. Agencies like Centrelink, the ATO, even local councils can tap into your private data. Police get access to your web browsing history directly from ISPs without judicial oversight. Encryption is being quietly undermined through laws like the TOLA Act, forcing tech companies to help spy or weaken their own systems. The government now mandates that AI search tools filter and flag content, shaping what people can even find online. When the AFP raided the ABC, they had the legal power to copy, alter, or delete files. Add to that Australia’s deep involvement in the global Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network, and it's clear: this isn’t future dystopia, it’s surveillance as a fact of life. NBN monopoly + TR-069 as default hard locked and custom PCB in NBN hardware (even to the point of new PCB runs with all headers and test points even unpopulated removed) it tooks untill the new rev of arriss hardware before they even complied with the GPRD lisenceing. legit!
8. its-summertime ◴[] No.44442440{4}[source]
We aren't part way down the slope either. There is no slippery slope, they will press on citizens through every opportunity they can get, regardless of the progress they have or have not made in the past.

Its more of a constantly lowering bar, not a slippery slope that just needs to be stopped once.

Or in words you might find more appealing: Its worse than a slippery slope.