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Show HN: Spegel, a Terminal Browser That Uses LLMs to Rewrite Webpages

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422 points simedw | 9 comments | 01 Jul 25 12:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.224s | source | bottom
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bubblyworld ◴[01 Jul 25 13:15 UTC] No.44433602[source]▶
Classic that the first example is for parsing the goddamn recipe from the goddamn recipe site. Instant thumbs up from me haha, looks like a neat little project.
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1. andrepd ◴[01 Jul 25 16:44 UTC] No.44435722[source]▶
Which it apparently does by completely changing the recipe in random places including ingredients and amounts thereof. It is _indeed_ a very good microcosm of what LLMs are, just not in the way these comments think.
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2. throwawayoldie ◴[01 Jul 25 17:10 UTC] No.44435998[source]▶
The output was then posted to the Internet for everyone to see, without the minimal amount of proofreading that would be necessary to catch that, which gives us a good microcosm of how LLMs are used.

On a more pleasant topic the original recipe sounds delicious, I may give it a try when the weather cools off a little.

3. simedw ◴[01 Jul 25 17:28 UTC] No.44436175[source]▶
It was actually a bit worse than that the LLM never got the full recipe due to some truncation logic I had added. So it regurgitated the recipe from training, and apparently, it couldn't do both that and convert units at the same time with the lite model (it worked for just flash).

I should have caught that, and there are probably other bugs too waiting to be found. That said, it's still a great recipe.

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4. bubblyworld ◴[01 Jul 25 17:38 UTC] No.44436268[source]▶
What do you mean? The recipes in the screenshot look more or less the same, the formatting has just changed in the Spiegel one (which is what was asked for, so no surprises there).

Edit: just saw the author's comment, I think I'm looking at the fixed page

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6. 0x696C6961 ◴[01 Jul 25 23:24 UTC] No.44438859{3}[source]▶
What is the point?
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7. plonq ◴[02 Jul 25 02:21 UTC] No.44439718{4}[source]▶
I’m someone else but for me the point is a serious bug resulted _incorrect data_, making it impossible to trust the output.
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8. bubblyworld ◴[02 Jul 25 06:22 UTC] No.44440736{5}[source]▶
Assuming you are responding in good faith - the author politely acknowledged the bug (despite the snark in the comment they responded to), explained what happened and fixed it. I'm not sure what more I could expect here? Bugs are inevitable, I think it's how they are handled that drives trust for me.
9. andrepd ◴[02 Jul 25 14:38 UTC] No.44444323{4}[source]▶
The point is LLMs are fundamentally unreliable algorithms for generating plausible text, and as such entirely unsuitable for this task. "But the recipe is probably delicious anyway" is beside the point, when it completely corrupted the meaning of the original. Which is annoying when it's a recipe but potentially very damaging when it's something else.

Techies seem to pretend this doesn't happen, and the general public who doesn't understand will trust the aforementioned techies. So what we see is these tools being used en masse and uncritically for purposes to which they are unsuited. I don't think this is good.