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kondro ◴[] No.44429105[source]
The fact the average Japanese person won't even consider trying imported Japonica rice from Australia or USA is madness if budget is a consideration.

But as someone who's tried many varieties of Japonica, there is a difference between the best Japan-grown rice and non-speciality rice grown elsewhere, as well as a difference between fresh (Japanese enjoy eating new rice, which is different from many rice-eating cultures) and old rice.

I pay somewhere around AUD$14/kg for Japanese rice in Australia, but I also don't eat it that often and I'm not that price sensitive.

But also, the average Japanese eats around 1kg of uncooked rice per week. That's ¥800 at the rates in the article (~USD$300/year). Japan's cost of living is generally pretty low, but I doubt +/- $100/year is effecting many people.

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rtpg ◴[] No.44429340[source]
> I pay somewhere around AUD$14/kg for Japanese rice in Australia

a 10kg bag of (AU-grown) koshihikari at Hanaromart (some Asian supermarket) is around 43 AUD right now IIRC. Could I tell the difference in blind tasting between it and just "normal" koshihikari off the shelf off a Japanese supermarket? Maybe, but maybe not. Not an argument for removing trade barriers, but the gap right now seems pretty stark.

I do feel like it's worth thinking about how you're saying 800 yen, but that might be per person. So for a 3-person family that's almost ~120k JPY per year. If you could cut that down to 90k JPY per year thats an extra 2500 JPY per month you can spend on food.

If you're the kind of person who only goes to the discount shops, an extra 2500 JPY per month can go a decent way on food. If you are on a pretty strict/limited food budget that 2500 JPY could go a long way.

Though of course like with eggs, etc, all food prices are just more obvious as well. And Japan has had really nasty inflation with energy + the weakening yen as well, so this is yet another thing that saps away at a budget where you're probably not saving that much to begin with.

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1. kondro ◴[] No.44429382[source]
As mentioned, I've done taste tests across various options and I can definitely tell the difference, which is why I pay more.

But as I also said, I can afford to pay more. I don't think the average Japanese is going to be effected. But as I mentioned, if you're budget conscious, not even considering non-Japanese rice is ridiculous.

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4. teruakohatu ◴[] No.44429636[source]
> As mentioned, I've done taste tests across various options and I can definitely tell the difference, which is why I pay more.

Can you tell the difference between Japanese brands or only between Japanese and non Japanese origin rice?

Is rice a significant percentage of food cost in Japan? Coming from a culture that uses less rice, the cost of price verses the cost of protein makes it just about a rounding error when cooking.

Now butter on the other hand has just about become a luxury good in New Zealand when it was once cheap, plentiful and extremely high quality.

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5. fc417fc802 ◴[] No.44429752[source]
> the cost of price verses the cost of protein makes it just about a rounding error when cooking

In the context of someone who is budget conscious typical meat prices likely place the vast majority of it entirely out of the question. Similarly a much larger proportion of calorie intake is likely to be made up by a nonperishable staple under those circumstances.

6. kondro ◴[] No.44429814[source]
I can taste the difference between Japanese brands and, because we have a local Japanese grocer with various regional rice options, I get to eat the one I enjoy the most.

But in general, I’ve not found non-Japanese rice that tastes as good, although we don’t have much variety of non-Japanese Japonica around (I won’t get into the general homogenization issue of products in Australian supermarkets).

7. skhr0680 ◴[] No.44430003[source]
> Is rice a significant percentage of food cost in Japan?

At the height of rice prices, rice cost about the same per kg as domestic chicken thighs. That's a problem when rice is meant to be an affordable staple food.

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8. late2part ◴[] No.44431863{3}[source]
rice is meant to be an affordable staple food.

Citation needed.

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9. IAmBroom ◴[] No.44433769{4}[source]
Oh, FFS.

https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+consumption+of+rice...