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The $25k car is going extinct?

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BanterTrouble ◴[] No.44421284[source]
I work on my own cars now (as a hobby really) and one of the reasons the new cars are so expensive is they are much more complicated. A lot of this seems to be over-engineering IMO. This is alluded to in the article, but not explicitly stated.

The cars I work on are from the early 90s and everything is very simple to understand.

e.g. Electronics are normally simple circuits that aren't much more complicated than what you would find in a door bell and finding faults is normally just tracing wires and using a multi-meter. I had issues with the brake lights / reverse lights not working, the issue turned out that the spade like connector in the fuse box was pushed through and was making partial contact. Price to fix this was £0.

EDIT: Just remembered this isn't accurate. I had to buy a new reverse light. The entire reverse light assembly was ~£20. So the price to fix was about £20. The light assembly itself was like a big bicycle light.

My newer car needs a OB-II scanner to diagnose anything with a phone app. While this is arguably quicker it can be misleading. Sometimes it will be telling you that something is malfunctioning but it is really the sensor itself. These sensors are £200-£300 a piece. Replacing 4 glow plug sensors cost me £800. I was paying essentially to make the "you must service your engine" light to go away. There was nothing wrong with engine itself.

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1. secabeen ◴[] No.44426320[source]
I found a similar thing on a cheap water heater. California requires an additional sensor to ensure the heating chamber doesn't overheat. It's not common generally, and the error messages when it triggers are not that helpful. After a few years of intermittent water heater failures, I finally realized that there was this sensor that was causing all the problems. I bypassed the sensor with a 1K resistor, confirming the issue, then had a new sensor sent out under warranty. Quick swap and it's been back to normal. I never found any documentation or repair advice that even considered that the sensor might be bad, and since it was California-only, most repair guides or technical documentation didn't mention it.

It's really easy to have a sensor failure that indicates a major repair is needed, when the actual issue is the $1 sensor.