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The $25k car is going extinct?

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BanterTrouble ◴[] No.44421284[source]
I work on my own cars now (as a hobby really) and one of the reasons the new cars are so expensive is they are much more complicated. A lot of this seems to be over-engineering IMO. This is alluded to in the article, but not explicitly stated.

The cars I work on are from the early 90s and everything is very simple to understand.

e.g. Electronics are normally simple circuits that aren't much more complicated than what you would find in a door bell and finding faults is normally just tracing wires and using a multi-meter. I had issues with the brake lights / reverse lights not working, the issue turned out that the spade like connector in the fuse box was pushed through and was making partial contact. Price to fix this was £0.

EDIT: Just remembered this isn't accurate. I had to buy a new reverse light. The entire reverse light assembly was ~£20. So the price to fix was about £20. The light assembly itself was like a big bicycle light.

My newer car needs a OB-II scanner to diagnose anything with a phone app. While this is arguably quicker it can be misleading. Sometimes it will be telling you that something is malfunctioning but it is really the sensor itself. These sensors are £200-£300 a piece. Replacing 4 glow plug sensors cost me £800. I was paying essentially to make the "you must service your engine" light to go away. There was nothing wrong with engine itself.

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a_c ◴[] No.44421640[source]
Any recommendation how to start learning repairing a car? I have absolutely zero experience. A friend of mine said just learn to change a tyre first and I have been procrastinating since.
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potato3732842 ◴[] No.44422108[source]
Buy POS 30yo car and just start getting it in shape to be daily drivable. You can typically screw things up three times over before it'd be cheaper to pay someone.

All you really need is the internet. China tools via Amazon are "fine".

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system33- ◴[] No.44422745[source]
Not disagreeing, just elaborating, about “fine” Chinese Amazon tools.

I needed safety wire pliers to assemble some brake rotors. The metal in the ones I got on Amazon was softer than the metal wire they came with such that the cutting edges got little wire-sized dents in them and increasingly useless the farther I got along in the job.

Returned those afterward. Junk.

But there’s other stuff I’ve gotten from RANDOMLETTERS Amazon that’s actually holding up “ok.”

Also, Harbor Freight is a better source of ok/fine tools where you don’t need quotes around those words.

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1. Loudergood ◴[] No.44424687[source]
The saying goes Harbor Freight is probably good enough for any tool you can afford to have fail. If your physical safety depends on it or if you use it so much that failure would cause a lot of downtime, you should probably spend a little more.