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The $25k car is going extinct?

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BanterTrouble ◴[] No.44421284[source]
I work on my own cars now (as a hobby really) and one of the reasons the new cars are so expensive is they are much more complicated. A lot of this seems to be over-engineering IMO. This is alluded to in the article, but not explicitly stated.

The cars I work on are from the early 90s and everything is very simple to understand.

e.g. Electronics are normally simple circuits that aren't much more complicated than what you would find in a door bell and finding faults is normally just tracing wires and using a multi-meter. I had issues with the brake lights / reverse lights not working, the issue turned out that the spade like connector in the fuse box was pushed through and was making partial contact. Price to fix this was £0.

EDIT: Just remembered this isn't accurate. I had to buy a new reverse light. The entire reverse light assembly was ~£20. So the price to fix was about £20. The light assembly itself was like a big bicycle light.

My newer car needs a OB-II scanner to diagnose anything with a phone app. While this is arguably quicker it can be misleading. Sometimes it will be telling you that something is malfunctioning but it is really the sensor itself. These sensors are £200-£300 a piece. Replacing 4 glow plug sensors cost me £800. I was paying essentially to make the "you must service your engine" light to go away. There was nothing wrong with engine itself.

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a_c ◴[] No.44421640[source]
Any recommendation how to start learning repairing a car? I have absolutely zero experience. A friend of mine said just learn to change a tyre first and I have been procrastinating since.
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1. DyslexicAtheist ◴[] No.44421741[source]
build one from scratch (kit car)
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2. atentaten ◴[] No.44422451[source]
Any recommendations?
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3. smeej ◴[] No.44422456[source]
Do these even still exist? And is it reasonable to get one road-legal somewhere like the U.S. for less than the cost of buying one (once you assign at least some value to your time)?
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4. DyslexicAtheist ◴[] No.44423601[source]
caterham https://caterhamcars.com/en/models/assembly
5. DyslexicAtheist ◴[] No.44423764[source]
I'm not in the US so no idea ... but according to answer in Google:

> All Caterham models are imported as rolling chassis. They are street legal in the U.S. under EPA kit-car regulations and can be registered through processes specific to individual states.

source https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015-caterham-seven-360-sta...

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6. _whiteCaps_ ◴[] No.44423974[source]
If I had the space+money, I'd go for a Factory Five kit: https://www.factoryfive.com/mk5/complete-kit/

and add an LS drivetrain.

7. knowaveragejoe ◴[] No.44426474[source]
I'd love a kit car that wasn't ridiculously expensive and/or designed to be raced. But I can understand that the kind of people who would invest the time in building a car would be okay with those propositions.

I wonder if there's a market for building something purely utilitarian, like a little hatchback or something, as a kit vehicle - with the express purpose of learning a lot of automotive principles along the way.

8. smeej ◴[] No.44435679{3}[source]
So, no, then? Even before valuing your labor at anything, they're more expensive than a lot of cars that come assembled.