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The $25k car is going extinct?

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319 points pseudolus | 1 comments | 29 Jun 25 15:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.21s | source
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999900000999 ◴[29 Jun 25 17:00 UTC] No.44414566[source]▶
We don't want affordable Chinese EVs.

That's the answer here. They can build cars better, cheaper, faster than we can.

Instead Ford wants to sell a 80k SUPER F-250 BIG MANN TRUCK. All for what, you to drive 10 minutes to Walmart, buy groceries and drive back.

The best car is the one you don't own. No payments, insurance, parking tickets.

Unfortunately most American cities are centered around driving. So much money , and space wasted on these multi ton metal boxes. In many places most(much) of the city is literally just parking spaces.

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paulryanrogers ◴[29 Jun 25 17:30 UTC] No.44414789[source]▶
Cars are a reflection of ones personality here in the Midwest. Some grow out of it or never subscribe to the mentality. It's certainly cheaper to bicycle, weather and health permitting.

Though car driving and ownership are a big cultural phenomenon, especially among men 18-50.

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999900000999 ◴[29 Jun 25 17:57 UTC] No.44414996[source]▶
Depends on the man, I’ll admit in my early twenties I meet a few partners by being car free.

I legit took a girl home after I asked her if she knew why the train was late.

In Amsterdam at least one of the train stations has a piano. It becomes a 3rd place were people can make friends and socialize.

We don’t have many 3rd places in the US where you can exist without spending money.

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dzhiurgis ◴[29 Jun 25 19:49 UTC] No.44415805[source]▶
Do you have example of places with density similar to US where public transport works well? Australia has some in urban centres, but otherwise car centric. Same in NZ. Elecric bus to my place costs 8x more than driving EV (before it was taxed)
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1. rsynnott ◴[30 Jun 25 09:27 UTC] No.44421201[source]▶
California has only a slightly lower population density than France. France has 27,000km of operating passenger rail tracks, California 2,600km (similar to Ireland, a country of 5 million people not noted for its public transport, with a lower population density than California).

This is a weird form of American exceptionalism where people insist that the US can't have the nice things that all other rich countries have, because Density. And this might even be true if you're talking about, say, Wyoming. But it absolutely isn't an excuse for places like California or Florida.