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fjfaase ◴[] No.44419355[source]
I fear that the general public in Germany will not be praising this achievement. The once efficient and punctional trains in Germany have deteriorated severely in the past years due to lots of delayed maintenance causing lots of delays and even regular cancelations of trains. Also the road infrastructure is suffering from delayed maintenance.
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attendant3446 ◴[] No.44419471[source]
That's exactly it, it's not the new top speed they need, they lack efficiency. And it's not just Deutschebahn. For example BVG, who runs busses and U-bahn in Berlin is even less reliable.
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simianwords ◴[] No.44419707[source]
I think higher speeds can help efficiency. For example it can help catch up a train that has been delayed.
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danieldk ◴[] No.44419928[source]
West European rail is very full, so rail use is carefully coordinated, since trains of vastly different speeds (e.g. ICE vs a regional train) use the same tracks.

If an ICE is, say, 15 minutes late, they cannot just drive faster to catch up. The schedule went on, and at that point there may be a much slower regional or intercity train on the same trajectory.

This is why ICE delays tend to cascade. It starts with a short delay, the ICE gets stuck behind a slower train, increasing the delay, etc.

The solution is better maintenance of tracks and trains, adding more rail capacity, adding redundancy, etc.

Of course, these are all much more expensive than an ICE speed experiment for PR.

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prmoustache ◴[] No.44420329[source]
If it is the same as in Switzerland, the solution is in helping people get the health care they need. Most time I got annoying delays when I was living in Switzerland was because of a "personal accident" which 99% of the time meant someone had deliberately jumped in front of a train.
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adev_ ◴[] No.44420407[source]
> If it is the same as in Switzerland, the solution is in helping people get the health care they need. [...]

Switzerland SBB/CFF and the German DB can not be compared, not even from far.

The Swiss trains are amongst the best in the world in term on punctuality. Delays barely exceed few minutes most of the time. Every connection is scheduled to be done < 5min. The usage is smooth like butter and It works like a Swiss clock.

At the opposite, German trains in the eastern part are barely on time and give you an almost Soviet experience for the regional one: The trains are old, poorly maintained, like the track itself and the service suffers of it.

The only place in Western Europe I experienced train to be worst than in Germany is currently in Hungary where there were actual soviet trains.

Even the freaking French SNCF with their legendary strikes tend to be more punctual than the DB.

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1. timeon ◴[] No.44420701[source]
> The only place in Western Europe I experienced train to be worst than in Germany is currently in Hungary where there were actual soviet trains.

As someone from the region, since when is Hungary 'Western' Europe? We are happy when acknowledged as 'Central' but this is new to me.

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2. adev_ ◴[] No.44421269[source]
Good point, I meant mainly 'within the EU' here.