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okdood64 ◴[] No.44414264[source]
Does YouTube allow massive scraping like this in their ToS?
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mouse_ ◴[] No.44414294[source]
Probably not.

Who cares at this point? No one is stopping ML sets from being primarily pirated. The current power is effectively dismantling copyright for AI related work.

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snickerdoodle12 ◴[] No.44414443[source]
> Who cares at this point

Anyone who has a shred of integrity. I'm not a fan of overreaching copyright laws, but they've been strictly enforced for years now. Decades, even. They've ruined many lives, like how they killed Aaron Swartz.

But now, suddenly, violating copyright is totally okay and carries no consequences whatsoever because the billionaires decided that's how they can get richer now?

If you want to even try to pretend you don't live in a plutocracy and that the rule of law matters at all these developments should concern you.

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shadowgovt ◴[] No.44418197[source]
Aaron Swartz died of suicide, not copyright.

His death was a tragedy but it wasn't done to him.

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marcus_holmes ◴[] No.44418691[source]
There's an English phrase "hounded to death", meaning that someone was pursued and hassled until they died. It doesn't specify the cause of death, but I think the assumption would be suicide, since you can't actually die of fatigue.

I think that's what was done to Aaron Swartz.

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shadowgovt ◴[] No.44418934[source]
Many people have dealt with the law, with copyright infringement, even with gross amounts of it, and had the book thrown at them, and survived the experience.

Swartz was ill. It is a tragedy he did not survive the experience, and indeed, trial is very stressful. But he was no more hounded than any defendant who comes under federal scrutiny and has to defend themselves in a court of law via the trial system. Kevin Mitnick spent a year in prison (first incarceration) and survived it. Swartz was offered six months and committed suicide.

I don't know how much we should change of the system to protect the Aaron Swartzs of the world; that's the mother of all Chesterton's Fences.

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1. shiroiuma ◴[] No.44419913[source]
Maybe someone should throw you in prison for a year on some BS made-up charges to see how well you survive it. We can use it as a data point for your argument.