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Using the Internet without IPv4 connectivity

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296 points jmillikin | 1 comments | 29 Jun 25 08:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.373s | source
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xacky ◴[29 Jun 25 12:13 UTC] No.44412475[source]▶
I have strong opinions about ipv4, especially since I'm forced to use an ipv4 isp. The lack of ipv6 adoption should be considered one of the great failures of tech. Who actually is responsible? Is it router manufacturers writing poor quality firmware, ipv4 advocates in leadership positions at isps, ipv4 address speculators, poor training of network engineers and tech support staff? I think we all need to have a much greater discussion with the internet at large and not just on isolated web posts and subreddits.

For comparison, the internet mostly transitioned off of TLS 1.0 just fine, why can't we do the same for transitioning off ipv4? Maybe AI powered proxies for legacy code perhaps?

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1. ianburrell ◴[30 Jun 25 02:11 UTC] No.44418534[source]▶
The big problem is that there isn't incentive for old companies to migrate. They have addresses and the benefits are mostly for customers who don't know about it. Also, network engineering training is all about IPv4, and it works so they don't want to change.

I think what was needed was organization that could push IPv6. Boring technology needs someone promoting or grows slowly. They could have logo for IPv6 ready devices, and list of ISPs with IPv6. They could write network engineering training for the IPv6 way.

We missed opportunities for cloud computing, Kubernetes, and new companies to be primarily IPv6.