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bettercallsalad ◴[] No.44410147[source]
As someone who is currently dating someone with history of psychosis, I have vested interest.

90% of the time she is truly the most amazing, compassionate, full of life and thoughtful person one can ever meet. Then there are times when it’s truly awful. She can barely sleep at all, leaves house without telling anyone seemingly thinking the presence of third person around. And she strongly feels others around are judging her hard, giving non verbal communication. It’s truly awful.

I didn’t know to the full extent her symptoms when we started dating. But one thing that was clear was she could barely sleep at night. Or sleep too long. There was no “normal sleep cycle”.

Over the time, some triggers are noticeable. Places with crowds, bright lighting, or sometimes stress at work. Aripaprazole so far seems to be holding up, no one knows for how long. I hear meds become resistant at some point. I don’t know what future holds. Kids are probably not an option. Although she very much wants it.

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FollowingTheDao ◴[] No.44410346[source]
I have schizoaffective disorder bipolar type, and I just wanted to acknowledge and thank you for staying with your partner. I’ve never been able to get someone to stay through my illness with me through my life. But that’s probably because I am man.

I was on so many meds. I can’t even count them. Now I’m not on any, and I consider myself essentially cured after living with it for 35 years.

If she has triggers, that means she does not have a disease , it means she’s a different person that sensitive to different things. If someone who carries the celiac risk genetics, never eats wheat they never get celiac disease. If your partner was never exposed to triggers, you would never know she had a mood disorder. Do you see what I mean?

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achierius ◴[] No.44414927[source]
> If she has triggers, that means she does not have a disease , it means she’s a different person that sensitive to different things

This is not the medical consensus. Schizophrenia, along with many other mental disorders, are well known to have a complex interplay with not only background genetic/chemical factors, but also the psychological conditions of the patient -- stressors like homelessness, drug use, and lack of sleep very much can trigger psychotic episodes. Suggesting otherwise is to suggest that a sick person not get care that they very well may need.

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1. FollowingTheDao ◴[] No.44415984[source]
> homelessness, drug use, and lack of sleep very much can trigger psychotic episodes.

Yes, I don’t understand your disagreement, that’s the point I was making. That for some of us these things will cause schizophrenia for others. Maybe some other illness like lupus. The problem isn’t the gene. The problem is the environment. If you’re not homeless, don’t use drugs and get good sleep And you don’t get schizophrenia, an we say schizophrenia is a disease? Or is it a symptom of environment that is not fitting for the individual?

And in fact, schizophrenia is not a disease, it’s classified as a disorder.

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2. lazyasciiart ◴[] No.44416567[source]
The disease or disorder is always present, the symptoms can come and go. Someone allergic to peanuts is allergic to peanuts whether or not they have eaten some this week.
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3. FollowingTheDao ◴[] No.44416718[source]
But you see I only care about the symptoms. And the symptoms are used to classify disorders. No symptoms, no disorder.

You can carry all these jeans and not be exposed to any trigger and would never know you had the disorder so can you call it disorder if you have zero symptoms?

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4. lazyasciiart ◴[] No.44417636{3}[source]
Yes, actually, you can. Feel free to call yourself allergy free and stop carrying an epipen though.