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BrenBarn ◴[] No.44410806[source]
> I heard one answer more than any other: the government should introduce universal basic income. This would indeed afford artists the security to create art, but it’s also extremely fanciful.

Until we start viewing "fanciful" ideas as realistic, our problems will persist. This article is another in the long series of observations of seemingly distinct problems which are actually facets of a larger problem, namely that overall economic inequality is way too high. It's not just that musicians, or actors, or grocery store baggers, or taxi drivers, or whatever, can't make a living, it's that the set of things you can do to make a living is narrowing more and more. Broad-based solutions like basic income, wealth taxes, breaking up large market players, etc., will do far more for us than attempting piecemeal tweaks to this or that industry.

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skeeter2020 ◴[] No.44414213[source]
I do a lot of things as an amateur but at pretty high level: athletics, music, art and more. I also pay a huge portion of my income as a software developer in direct and indirect taxation. Convince me I should fund people to focus full-time on things where they can't make a living, the same things I love to do but realize can't be your sole pursuit.

You've conflated people busting ass who can't keep up with those following their passion in the arts voluntarily. Those don't feel anything like the same thing to me. I don't think I'm alone in a perspective that if you keep taking more from me I'll stop contributing all together, and we'll all fail. The ultra-rich and others with means to avoid picking up the tab have already done so.

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1. jayd16 ◴[] No.44415464[source]
Your argument begs the question. If we made it so it could be a sole pursuit then you'd be free to choose.

Besides, why do you want to live in a world with less artists and full of people who hate their jobs?

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2. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.44417130[source]
I want to be able to choose what I want. If I want art, I will buy it and pay an artist. If I want to eat at a restaurant, I will pay for that instead.

Why would I ever want to let others decide for me if I get art or food today?

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3. jayd16 ◴[] No.44418618[source]
Huh? Inherent to the act of buying, you're relying on someone choosing to sell. I'm not really sure what you're asking.
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4. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.44419557{3}[source]
yes, that is the system that I prefer: voluntary buying and selling.

I do not like the proposed system where people chose what they produce, and I am compelled to pay for it whether I want it or not.

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5. tossandthrow ◴[] No.44420874{4}[source]
The question is: how will there be developed a supply in a world where nobody are provided the means to practice the craft?
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