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jan_Sate ◴[] No.44403737[source]
I don't get why the US thought that it'd be a good idea to vet social media accounts for visa applications. If someone's having ill intent, one could easily create a burner account and fill in some random content for the sake of getting thru the visa application. Or they could even just purchase an account somewhere on the internet.

Sad to see what US has become.

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apwell23 ◴[] No.44404097[source]
Doing that would be visa fraud.

Why create any rule if ppl can commit fraud anyways?

Why ask for educational qualifications for h1b because ppl can create fake certificates( many do) ?

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Chris2048 ◴[] No.44404249[source]
Would it? What makes aSM account "official"? If I make a burner account, it's still my account.
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apwell23 ◴[] No.44404307[source]
you have reveal all social media accounts not one of your choosing.

ppl commenting here without even checking the basics :(

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Chris2048 ◴[] No.44412325[source]
Entry can be denied if you claim to have no social media accounts, so you can in fact only give one of your choosing to gain entry.

Whether not disclosing any others is visa fraud is a matter of legal consideration iff other accounts are discovered before the collapse of the current administration.

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apwell23 ◴[] No.44412518{3}[source]
fraud is only fraud iff its discovered?

are you a bot ? i am having hard time believing a normal adult human would come up with that .

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Chris2048 ◴[] No.44412644{4}[source]
There are plenty of things that are only "legal thing" once they are officially judged to be so. An obvious (to a layman HNer) crime isn't one until legally declared so.

The same standard applies to many of the apparently unconstitutional actions of the current administration.

Please stop with the paranoid "bot" nonsense, my account is over a decade older than yours is.

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apwell23 ◴[] No.44412883{5}[source]
> An obvious (to a layman HNer) crime isn't one until legally declared so.

ok so what? Go ahead commit fraud in visa applications?

plenty do already and get visas approved, like i said in my own comment. I've seen ppl get h1b/f1 visas based on fake education certifications.

ppl already know that they can commit fraud. So again, what is that you are even saying?

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1. Chris2048 ◴[] No.44412971{6}[source]
> Go ahead commit fraud in visa applications?

That would be "fraud", not fraud.

> what is that you are even saying?

I think I was clear; your morally based personal conception of "fraud" isn't relevant to what actual practise is, and this is especially relevant to an administration that might not even be acting legally in the first place.

Maybe these things are fraud, or would be judged so if it goes to court, assuming such a right applies, and you aren't illegally deprived of it; maybe these standards aren't even legally valid.

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2. apwell23 ◴[] No.44415998[source]
> your morally based personal conception of "fraud" isn't relevant to what actual practise is

lying on your visa application is visa fraud. Its not that complicated. It has nothing to do with "this administration". social media account info has been on those forms for a long time.

Can you pls educate yourself a little bit instead of some nonsensical ranting. bye!