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parpfish ◴[] No.44408859[source]
How many financially self-sustaining musicians should there be? Streaming has caused the number to fall, but recorded music before that likely made it fall as well.

Should we stop thinking about music as a job and start thinking about it as a hobbyist art form? Nobody is out there lamenting that you can’t make a living off of landscape painting. It’s a fun form of self expression that people will do regardless of the economics, so maybe the problem was ever thinking you could make a profession out of it?

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kleiba ◴[] No.44409045[source]
> Nobody is out there lamenting that you can’t make a living off of landscape painting.

Completely different markets, though: how much time per day do you spend looking at landscape paintings vs. listening to music?

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Den_VR ◴[] No.44409081[source]
I’d say I intentionally listen to music maybe an hour total per month, usually while my eyes are occupied.

Meanwhile, outside of museums most landscape art is also advertising. But I’ll spend two or three hours at an art museum when I get the chance.

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kleiba ◴[] No.44409139[source]
I hear music all the time, when I commute, when I drive kids to various clubs, friends, and events, when they put music on at home, when I watch a TV show or a movie - all that music was produced by somebody.

I like art but I cannot remember the last time I went to an exhibition. Certainly not since my wife and I became parents.

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1. fragmede ◴[] No.44409395[source]
when was the last time you saw something beautiful though? Or just saw something and it made you think.
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2. neom ◴[] No.44409989[source]
Yesterday a butterfly got stuck in my pool, I usually try to save them. This one was trying it's hardest to fly but the water on it's wings was just slightly too heavy or something, but it was flapping really hard and making the most amazing ripple in the pool, I froze and couldn't stop looking at the ripple it was making, the ripple frequency and modulation was was slow and totally perfect, even tho it was flapping incredibly hard...but I also thought it's stuck and going to die, but I was totally fixated on the frequency and amplitudes. I managed to break my gaze and got it out. That was the most beautiful thing that made me think recently, I'm still thinking about it.
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3. aspenmayer ◴[] No.44410335[source]
Now you’ve got me thinking about the beauty in the mundane. The real butterfly effect is the friends we make along the way. You saved the butterfly one time, and in the telling, you’ve helped save my hope in humanity. To me, these moments are as genuinely human as any achievement. To be human is to behold, and to be captivated thus.
4. kleiba ◴[] No.44412070[source]
Why is that relevant? We're talking about the commercial prospect of making music vs. that of painting landscapes.
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5. fragmede ◴[] No.44446888[source]
just because your eye aren't your ears, and you've been busy, doesn't mean that there isn't a market for visually appealing things.