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mslansn[dead post] ◴[] No.44407124[source]
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kelnos ◴[] No.44407742[source]
"This website" is a diverse bunch of people with diverse goals and policy positions. Please don't make generalizations.

Copyright in its current form is ridiculous, but I support some (much-pared-back) version of copyright that limits rights further, expands fair use, repeals the DMCA, and reduces the copyright term to something on the order of 15-20 years (perhaps with a renewal option as with patents).

I've released a lot of software under the GPL, and the GPL in its current form couldn't exist without copyright.

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martin-t ◴[] No.44408174[source]
Current copyright is too strong in terms of length but too weak in terms of derived work. Well, pending some lawsuits, perhaps.

What copyright should do is protect individual creators, not corporations. And it should protect them even if their work is mixed through complex statistical algorithms such as LLMs.

LLMs wouldn't be possible without _trillions_ of hours of work by people writing books, code, music, etc. they are trained on. The _millions_ of hours of work spent on the training algorithm itself, the chat interface, the scraping scripts, etc. is barely a drop in the bucket.

There is 0 reason the people who spent mere millions of hours of work should get all the reward without giving anything to the rest of the world who put in trillions of hours.

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logicchains ◴[] No.44408427[source]
Your approach will be completely untenable in future when we'll have embodied LLMs capable of dynamically learning (live weight updates). It'd make it illegal for such a machine to read any book, watch any movie or browse any webpage, because it could potentially memorise and regurgitate the content. Which would be completely impossible to enforce.
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