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1. princevegeta89 ◴[] No.44407986[source]
I don't understand... what is the privacy concern with Framework Laptops? All hardware used is transparent and replacable. Software is the user's choice, and many users go for Linux. It is as transparent as you can make an OS to be.

What am I missing here..?

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2. SlowTao ◴[] No.44408107[source]
* puts on cynical hat * I suspect it is most just marketing. Privacy can help you sell even if it is no better than what a lot of people are doing.

Using open boot and a neutered Intel ME is a good start but nothing too unique nowadays.

Also at this point hardware privacy is all well and good but if you are going to dump stock Windows 11 on it, well it is called Windows for a reason, lets all your data out of one.

3. fsflover ◴[] No.44408271[source]
The problem is Intel Management Engine, which is disabled in NovaCustom.
4. ementally ◴[] No.44408698[source]
https://4fa2b80c.privsec-dev-2oz.pages.dev/posts/knowledge/l...

>Framework. vPro Enterprise Framework devices actually meet HSI level 4, but they unfortunately do not handle firmware updates properly. They have not shipped a single firmware for their 13th generation over a year since its release date, and over 6 months since the disclosure of LogoFail. While they do ship some updates for other devices, how they have been handling so far is not acceptable if you need a secure device.

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5. mixmastamyk ◴[] No.44409151[source]
Believe they updated firmware again, but yes proprietary and slow to update.