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LLMs bring new nature of abstraction – up and sideways

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54 points tudorizer | 1 comments | 24 Jun 25 14:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.198s | source
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oytis ◴[24 Jun 25 15:11 UTC] No.44367106[source]▶
I don't get his argument, and if it wasn't Martin Fowler I would just dismiss it. He admits himself that it's not an abstraction over previous activity as it was with HLLs, but rather a new activity altogether - that is prompting LLMs for non-deterministic outputs.

Even if we assume there is value in it, why should it replace (even if in part) the previous activity of reliably making computers do exactly what we want?

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kookamamie ◴[28 Jun 25 11:15 UTC] No.44403847[source]▶
Funny, I dismiss the opinion based on the author in question.
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Insanity ◴[28 Jun 25 11:35 UTC] No.44403918[source]▶
Serious question - why? I know of the author but don’t see a reason to value his opinion on this topic more or less because of this.

(Attaching too much value to the person instead of the argument is more of an ‘argument from authority’)

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kookamamie ◴[28 Jun 25 12:22 UTC] No.44404170[source]▶
Let's just say I think a lot of damage was caused by their OOP evangelism back in the day.
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1. Disposal8433 ◴[28 Jun 25 18:23 UTC] No.44406920[source]▶
His Refactoring book was a good thing at the time. But it ends there, he should have tried to program instead of writing all the other books that made no sense.