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The Monster Inside ChatGPT

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46 points petethomas | 4 comments | 27 Jun 25 14:16 UTC | HN request time: 0.874s | source
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gchamonlive ◴[27 Jun 25 15:04 UTC] No.44397333[source]▶
If you put lemons in a blender and add water it'll produce lemon juice. If you put your hand in a blender however, you'll get a mangled hand. Is this exposing dark tendencies of mangling bodies hidden deep down blenders all across the globe? Or is it just doing what's supposed to be doing?

My point is, we can add all sorts of security measures but at the end of the day nothing is a replacement for user education and intention.

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1. kelseyfrog ◴[27 Jun 25 15:48 UTC] No.44397742[source]▶
How much power and control do we assume we have in determining the ultimate purpose or "end goal" (telos) of large language models?

Assuming teleological essentialism is real, where does the telos come from? How much of it comes from the creators? If there are other sources, what are they and what's the mechanism of transfer?

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2. gchamonlive ◴[28 Jun 25 10:26 UTC] No.44403631[source]▶
LLMs by themselves are pretty useless, it's only during inference where they produce potentially valuable output. So the analysis of causality isn't just exclusive to the LLM, but the combination of the model and prompt.

So there is some cause and influence by the models biases, or its essence if you must, but the prompt takes an important role too. I believe it's important for companies to figure this out, but for me personally I'm not interested at all in this balance.

What I'm interested in is how I can use these models as an extension of myself. And I'm also interested in showing people around me how they could do the same.

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3. kelseyfrog ◴[28 Jun 25 16:21 UTC] No.44405872[source]▶
It's a bit difficult to understand how your comment responds to the teleology of LLMs. Can you please clarify?
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4. gchamonlive ◴[28 Jun 25 20:53 UTC] No.44408102{3}[source]▶
I said it's important for companies, but for me I'm more interest in how it functions for me personally, for the average consumer.