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The time is right for a DOM templating API

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218 points mdhb | 1 comments | 26 Jun 25 19:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.274s | source
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pier25 ◴[26 Jun 25 22:40 UTC] No.44392178[source]▶
The web really needs native templating, reactivity, and data binding.

I can't even begin to imagine how much CPU and bandwidth is wasted with billions of users downloading, parsing, and executing something like React.

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strix_varius ◴[27 Jun 25 01:50 UTC] No.44393120[source]▶
With the TC39 signals proposal, part of that is making progress.
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CharlieDigital ◴[27 Jun 25 02:08 UTC] No.44393172[source]▶
Except React.....
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tacticus ◴[27 Jun 25 03:28 UTC] No.44393456[source]▶
Was react ever about progress?
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nine_k ◴[27 Jun 25 06:58 UTC] No.44394351[source]▶
If you valued your sanity when developing complex Web UIs, React was a lifesaver.

DOM sucks though, it's slow, it's heavyweight, it lacks transactions. We're stuck with it, and frameworks like React have to do the DOM diffing + patching thing, explicitly, in JS.

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youngtaff ◴[27 Jun 25 07:26 UTC] No.44394509[source]▶
React was a solution to a ten years ago problem
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youngtaff ◴[27 Jun 25 11:39 UTC] No.44395972[source]▶
You can downvote it but it doesn’t make it any less true

Alex Russell has written swathes of arguments about Reacts performance issues https://infrequently.org/2024/11/if-not-react-then-what/

The DOM has become much faster since React started over a decade ago, the VDOM really isn’t needed anymore even for app like experiences

React is about developer preference over user experience

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1. ch_sm ◴[27 Jun 25 12:37 UTC] No.44396325[source]▶
Agree that react isn’t the best implementation of the concept, both in terms of ergonomics and efficiency. But a react-like framework is still very much needed to create complex apps in the browser. So IMHO react is a solution to a very current problem, only not an ideal one.