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Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

101 points MongooseStudios | 6 comments | 27 Jun 25 02:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.846s | source | bottom

I'm a self taught dev that worked my butt off and endured years of "we promote internally" lies at multiple companies to finally get paid to write code.

I've been job hunting since I was laid off last November, and I'm just over it. Everyone is unicorn hunting for X years in Y framework and if you don't have exactly that you need not apply. Meanwhile FAANG, Microsoft, and Intel keep handing out pink slips.

I still love coding, I've spent most of my non "job applications and existential dread" time since layoff building projects. But the thought of working for another company run by braindead execs that want to shove AI into everything, or sitting through another round of Becky from HR (whose most technical skill is sometimes using excel) asking me "so why do you want to work here" fills me with revulsion.

I've taken to telling people with absurdly high meeting count hiring processes and one way video screenings that I'm not interested. I find myself excited about the prospect of doing almost anything other than sitting through another planning week at some company that swears up and down they are "doing Agile."

I'm furious at how companies have decided to kick us to the curb, outsource our jobs to the cheapest country they can find, or whatever AI company has the tastiest complimentary crayons this week. I'm furious at the RTO nonsense everyone is increasingly pushing, because their managers are so awful at their jobs they can't figure out how to replace interrupting us in person with interrupting us via a slack message. I'm furious, and tired at the same time.

Anyone else?

1. itsthecourier ◴[27 Jun 25 03:29 UTC] No.44393464[source]▶
used to see 80-100 lines of good code per programmer.

seeing up to 2400 lines a day in 4 hours of deep work. LLMs will greatly reduce the amount of people required, mainly seniors. erode the path for junior training and put further pressure in an industry continually contracting since 2021.

the amortization of software developing as R&D expense among many years implemented by the IRS didn't help either

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2. AdieuToLogic ◴[27 Jun 25 03:48 UTC] No.44393537[source]▶
> used to see 80-100 lines of good code per programmer.

For what time frame? A day? A week? A ... ?

> seeing up to 2400 lines a day in 4 hours of deep work.

Now I get it.

Lines of code is not a metric for correctness nor fitness of purpose.

> LLMs will greatly reduce the amount of people required, mainly seniors.

This is just high-grade speculative bovine excrement.

3. tomrod ◴[27 Jun 25 03:56 UTC] No.44393570[source]▶
I think the amortization is the primary issue, TBH.
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4. TheCowboy ◴[27 Jun 25 06:43 UTC] No.44394271[source]▶
Not primarily the fault of the IRS, as they were just following the law passed in 2017 that didn't go into effect until years later. But there's a chance it gets changed back to the previous way by the same people who passed it.
5. pepoluan ◴[27 Jun 25 07:38 UTC] No.44394587[source]▶
> LLMs will greatly reduce the amount of people required, mainly seniors

Nope. LLM is unable to reason about correctness of code, since they only regurgitate code based on "most likely to come next".

Rather, senior programmers will even be more important to check for correctness. And this will likely lead to senior programmer burnout.

6. ponector ◴[27 Jun 25 14:13 UTC] No.44396956[source]▶
I don't think so. Downturn is global, but amortisation issue is for a local market.