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arp242 ◴[] No.44382233[source]
A lot of these "security bugs" are not really "security bugs" in the first place. Denial of service is not resulting in people's bank accounts being emptied or nude selfies being spread all over the internet.

Things like "panics on certain content" like [1] or [2] are "security bugs" now. By that standard anything that fixes a potential panic is a "security bug". I've probably fixed hundreds if not thousands of "security bugs" in my career by that standard.

Barely qualifies as a "security bug" yet it's rated as "6.2 Moderate" and "7.5 HIGH". To say nothing of gazillion "high severity" "regular expression DoS" nonsense and whatnot.

And the worst part is all of this makes it so much harder to find actual high-severity issues. It's not harmless spam.

[1]: https://github.com/gomarkdown/markdown/security/advisories/G...

[2]: https://rustsec.org/advisories/RUSTSEC-2024-0373.html

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nicce ◴[] No.44382268[source]
> A lot of these "security bugs" are not really "security bugs" in the first place. Denial of service is not resulting in people's bank accounts being emptied or nude selfies being spread all over the internet.

That is not true at all. Availability is also critical. If nobody can use bank accounts, bank has no purpose.

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bogeholm ◴[] No.44382300[source]
Security and utility are separate qualities.

You’re correct that inaccessible money are useless, however one could make the case that they’re secure.

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1. burnt-resistor ◴[] No.44383068[source]
Define what you mean by "security".

Control integrity, nonrepudiation, confidentiality, privacy, ...

Also, define what you mean by "utility" because there's inability to convert a Word document, inability to stop a water treatment plant from poisoning people, and ability to stop a fire requiring "utility".