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krunck ◴[] No.44380402[source]
The comment by Benjamin Stockton on the article page is spot-on:

>I just wonder if humanity’s adventurous nature is leading us away from a proper focus on the sustainability of our civilization, our specie, and our fragile planetary environment?

But we still need spaceflight at least for planetary defense against asteroids, mining asteroids(so we don't have to mine Earth), etc.

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trhway ◴[] No.44380646[source]
Our civilization has been driven by expansion. Without it we'd probably collapse into a neurally-connected well-organized ant colony without need for further technological/social/economic progress (which would naturally select/cull out corresponding features in our brain). And, i'd guess that is possible one of the forms of the Great Filter stopping many civilizations.

At 53 and good health, i'm contemplating that my end in 30-40 years would be me buying a one way to Mars and just exiting the habitat out without suit after enjoying a dinner with a Martian sunset view, breaking, even in such a small way, the chains of "We come from the earth, we return to the earth" :)

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sorcerer-mar ◴[] No.44380823[source]
That's a truly awful way to die (all your fluids and gases suddenly surging through your tissue).

Seems much easier to reframe the "chains" of earth into acceptance of a remarkable cycle that we're privileged to get a glimpse of from the inside and just die happily here with your loved ones.

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trhway ◴[] No.44380988[source]
The technicalities would be worked out. The awfulness isn't a goal here.

The acceptance would have me still in Russia :)

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sorcerer-mar ◴[] No.44381087[source]
Presumably you left Russia to get to something better, not worse on pretty much every dimension except novelty
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trhway ◴[] No.44381190[source]
Yep, and dying on Mars feels to me better than on Earth.
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sorcerer-mar ◴[] No.44381251[source]
On what dimensions would that be preferable?
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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.44381376[source]
> On what dimensions would that be preferable?

Novelty, for one.

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sorcerer-mar ◴[] No.44381652[source]
Yeah, makes sense. Novelty like what toys provide!

Obviously one is free to want that. When I think of the opportunity costs involved, it seems repugnant to be honest. The opposite of glorious.

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trhway ◴[] No.44382053[source]
That is about my point - i want to get as far as possible from such a philosophy as it is taking over the civilization. I lived under similar philosophy in USSR and, as long as it is up to me, i'll be trying to put a distance in all senses.
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1. sorcerer-mar ◴[] No.44382920[source]
Eh, pathologies at both ends!

I hope you achieve your dream though (and that you devise a more pleasant way to do it ;))