←back to thread

325 points davidbarker | 10 comments | | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
Show context
jonplackett ◴[] No.44381121[source]
I used to love to make silly websites or apps with new technologies. Been doing it since flash. I have a pretty decent hit rate! It’s not unusually to get half a million or so people try one of them.

But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high.

If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast.

Log in with [insert ai vendor here] is something I’ve been hoping would happen for a while.

replies(6): >>44381339 #>>44381554 #>>44381710 #>>44381790 #>>44384881 #>>44388950 #
gavmor ◴[] No.44381710[source]
"Log in With Google" to use Drive storage has long been a thing. Maybe proxying Gemini usage isn't too far off.
replies(1): >>44382916 #
1. dcl ◴[] No.44382916[source]
"Bring your own AI" or "Provide your AI API access key" will probably be coming to a lot of services/apps that we want 'our' AI's to interact with.

I can see this also bringing strongly tiered AI's, there will be commodity/free AI's a and expensive ones for rich people/power users.

replies(3): >>44383224 #>>44383308 #>>44383907 #
2. gavmor ◴[] No.44383224[source]
I just hope I live to see the day personal agents are empowered to make ad hoc use of paid services on our behalf—via eg AITP (Agent Interaction & Transaction Protocol), which is specifically designed to enable autonomous, secure communication, negotiation, and value exchange between agents across trust boundaries. AITP includes explicit capabilities for "Payments" (AITP-01) and "Data Request" (AITP-03), allowing structured sharing of sensitive information like addresses and passwords that can be programmatically verified and executed.

Similarly, the Coral Protocol aims to be an open and decentralized infrastructure for "The Internet of Agents," with "built-in economic transactions" at its core. This means agents can be compensated for their contributions via on-chain micropayments

Oh, damn, no, that sounds like an expense-tracking nightmare. Budgeting becomes the principal executive input.

replies(2): >>44384696 #>>44387981 #
3. kgdiem ◴[] No.44383308[source]
Snowflake does revenue sharing, it’s possible that AI providers can start doing that too.
replies(1): >>44389122 #
4. cube00 ◴[] No.44383907[source]
> "Provide your AI API access key" will probably be coming to a lot of services/apps that we want 'our' AI's to interact with.

Considering provide your own API key is banned by a number of larger players (Reddit, Google Maps) to stop large numbers of users cashing in on the free/cheap low usage tiers I'd expect AI vendors would enforce the same rules soon once all this free VC hype funding dries up.

replies(1): >>44389111 #
5. nsriv ◴[] No.44384696[source]
Last line of your comment is what I was thinking the entire time. Another layer of abstraction between our minds and our wallets.
6. BoiledCabbage ◴[] No.44387981[source]
JFC, these crypto people never stop! No matter how many times their tech has shown itself it be just about useless other than for illegal activities or for scamming people, they keep pushing it in every new tech space that exists.

I swear 100 years from now someone will be inventing faster then light travel, and there will be some tech scammers posting on HN on "how much better it would be on chain". Or how "the engine could be better if it used a decentralized crypto protocol."

The allure of being in the ground floor of a new scam just must be that great.

7. pzo ◴[] No.44389111[source]
any details on this? how they can even detect it or ban it?
replies(1): >>44394657 #
8. pzo ◴[] No.44389122[source]
do you have a link where I can read more about it?
9. cube00 ◴[] No.44394657{3}[source]
It's in their TOS. Trivial to ban you when they see thousands of different keys coming from a single IP.
replies(1): >>44429978 #
10. pzo ◴[] No.44429978{4}[source]
not sure what CORS rule they have but in edge apps most likely your users will run AI API directly from their devices so not like their key will be used more than on few edge devices they have.