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jonplackett ◴[] No.44381121[source]
I used to love to make silly websites or apps with new technologies. Been doing it since flash. I have a pretty decent hit rate! It’s not unusually to get half a million or so people try one of them.

But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high.

If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast.

Log in with [insert ai vendor here] is something I’ve been hoping would happen for a while.

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1. mbm ◴[] No.44381554[source]
Agreed, it's an interesting model. I wonder what the approval ui looks like for the app end-user? Is it super clear to them that they're financially responsible for their usage?
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2. jonplackett ◴[] No.44381603[source]
Yeah I wonder how that actually works - because I would guess people are logging in with their consumer login not an api login, so they’re not really even in the mindset of limits and cost per token.
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3. mbm ◴[] No.44381774[source]
Precisely. You click on a claude link, and suddenly it's, "You are now financially responsible for your actions from here on..." I'm sure they've spent a lot of time thinking through the ui/ux of this.
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4. ameliaquining ◴[] No.44382955{3}[source]
Users of Claude-hosted apps can't thereby incur financial liability, because it counts against the usage limit of their consumer Claude plan, which either is free or has a fixed monthly subscription price. The worst that can happen is that they run out of quota and can't use Claude anymore until it resets, which happens every day on free plans and every five hours on paid ones. In no case is usage attributed to an API key with metered pricing.
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5. mbm ◴[] No.44383302{4}[source]
Ah true. So the push becomes even stronger for people to upgrade to the max plans, when several of the "apps" they're using are consuming their allocated Claude tokens. Brilliant.