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486 points ethanpil | 8 comments | 25 Jun 25 00:07 UTC | HN request time: 0.208s | source | bottom
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wasimanitoba ◴[25 Jun 25 09:25 UTC] No.44375245[source]▶
Meanwhile, they forced AI Copilot bloat into Notepad, whose singular use-case was supposed to be that it does one thing well without unnecessary features.
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pjmlp ◴[25 Jun 25 10:30 UTC] No.44375660[source]▶
Unfortunately, the new Edit isn't safe from such decisions.

While Satya might have made the change Microsoft <3 FOSS, the Gates/Balmer era was much better towards Windows developers.

Now we have a schizophrenia of Web and Desktop frameworks, and themselves hardly use them, what used to be a comfortable VS wizard, or plugin, now is e.g. a CLI tool that dumps an Excel file, showing that newer blood has hardly any Windows development culture, or their upper management.

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CineSnaccs ◴[25 Jun 25 11:03 UTC] No.44375851[source]▶
I don't know how many people don't know this, but now you actually can't release app on Windows without it showing your warning while installing unless you sign it with EV certificates, which cost upwards of 500$ for a year.

As you may have guessed, this simply pushes out smaller devs. This used to NOT be like this. It should NOT be like this.

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1. simplyinfinity ◴[25 Jun 25 13:59 UTC] No.44377432[source]▶
Good. This might suck for opensource devs, but for normies that might get a random exe link this is good. I've gotten numerous phone calls from relatives when they try to run some unrecognized app, most of the time is benign, but on few occasions it was something malicious.
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2. conductr ◴[25 Jun 25 15:50 UTC] No.44378670[source]▶
It's a heavy tax to protect the ignorant. I hear things like this and think how I've been using a computer for nearly 4 decades and it's never once happened to me. Maybe those types of people need to re-evaluate their technology choices (maybe iPad is more appropriate) instead of taxing the entire ecosystem to protect them from themselves.
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3. simplyinfinity ◴[25 Jun 25 16:36 UTC] No.44379198[source]▶
low income countries don't have the money for iPads. My parents run on a 300 Euro computer bought 5 years ago. My dad is technical enough to get around a computer, but he's in his 60s now. My mom can open Facebook and youtube. Sometimes either of them downloads stuff, and opens them. So your solution is "make millions consumers spend $$ on overpriced hardware and even more closed off system, so few hundred open source devs don't spend 500$ to verify their app (which they will have to do if they want to release on the iOS platform either way)" Ain't no way.
4. hulitu ◴[25 Jun 25 16:40 UTC] No.44379252[source]▶
> Good. This might suck for opensource devs, but for normies that might get a random exe link this is good

That random exe link is signed by Microsoft.

5. dec0dedab0de ◴[25 Jun 25 16:49 UTC] No.44379370[source]▶
A popup warning is not a heavy tax.
6. cwyers ◴[25 Jun 25 16:55 UTC] No.44379441[source]▶
If you count the number of ignorant people who use Windows versus the people like you, you'll quickly realize the tax is very cheap for the level of protection it offers to the number of people it offers it to.
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7. ethbr1 ◴[25 Jun 25 23:23 UTC] No.44382732{3}[source]▶
The correct answer should be a legally-mandated one-time escape hatch.

Bury it as deep as Microsoft wants, but...

  1) Everyone can use it
  2) It turns off all nanny-checks
  3) It makes future checks opt-in instead of opt-out
8. conductr ◴[26 Jun 25 16:43 UTC] No.44389044{3}[source]▶
Then they should pay it, not the developers?