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A new PNG spec

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poisonborz ◴[25 Jun 25 10:11 UTC] No.44375523[source]▶
Not backwards compatible. We just add it to that nice cupboard "great advanced image formats we will forget about".

Society doesn't need a new image format. I'd wager to say not any new multimedia format. Big corporate entites do, and have churning them out at a steady pace.

Look at poor webp - a format pushed by the largest industry players - and the abysmal everyday use it gets, and the hate it generates.

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michaelmior ◴[25 Jun 25 10:13 UTC] No.44375537[source]▶
> and the abysmal everyday use it gets

Estimates are that 95% of Internet users have a browser that supports WebP and that ~25% of the top million websites serve WebP images. I wouldn't call that abysmal.

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dotancohen ◴[25 Jun 25 10:20 UTC] No.44375590[source]▶
5% of people can't view them, yet 25% of top websites use them?

In what other industry would it be considered acceptable to exclude 5% of visitors/users/clients?

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1. bawolff ◴[25 Jun 25 10:29 UTC] No.44375653[source]▶
Can the 5% view images at all? The number of web crawlers have exploded recently.
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2. jdiff ◴[25 Jun 25 11:53 UTC] No.44376219[source]▶
Yes, but it's 2% that are still using browsers without full support for WebP according to caniuse, which takes its numbers from StatCounter.

https://caniuse.com/webp

Note that I'm looking at "all tracked," which excludes 2% "other" browsers in the data whose featureset is not known.